Ramps/Resources, For Right hand TIMR fingerstyle technique

[JfetPre775]

Hey all! I’m an advanced player with a ton of experience and facility w/standard IM and IMR styles (Steve Bailey is a big personal hero!) Although admittedly I’ve never been happy w/how far I’ve come with the alternating IMR technique, at least the way S. Bailey does it.

The most success w/non-traditional techniques I’ve had has been in the Vic Wooten style slap; “Double Thumb/Open-hmr/Pluck” style. Ive been able to develop that stuff to a very high level, and really take as it far as I ever wanted to. I had the entire “show of hands” record down COLD 15+ yrs ago)

**BUT; Ironically I’m really not a slap style guy by nature! Jaco, Steve Bailey, F. Rocco Prestia-esque Fingerstyle funk to Jamiroquai & Blood Sugar Flea is where my heart lies! I’ve always wished to explore the possibilities of a 3/4 finger right hand technical approach.. But unlike the V. Wooten stuff which I half worked out myself and the rest revealed via Bass Day 98’. There’s very little instruction at least that I’m aware of on TIMR and similar..

*SO; 2 things; Im aware that a lot of the specific touch/muscle memory training comes from reestablishing a new striking depth and reference point using a ramp.. Can anyone help me find a Ramp to purchase (I’m real lousy with woodwork)?

Also could anyone provide resources/reccomendations for players/vids/instructional material? You know the stuff along the lines of what G. Willis, Matthew Garrison, Dominique Di Piazza, and others have been doing w/4-finger RH technique.. Thanks!!

 

[Watchootognbout]

Have you checked out this thread?
There's a lot of info about ramps and some resources that provide them.
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/a-...-garrison-technique-and-playing-ramps.225211/

 

[FatStringer52]

 

[Groove Doctor]

Abe Laboriel has some great instructional videos on 4 finger plucking. He borrowed a classical guitar approach called PIMA (Spanish for TIMR).

I played fingerstyle guitar decades ago so it came very natural to me. Opens up lots of string muting, string jumping, and chordal options.

 

[JfetPre775]

Abe Laboriel has some great instructional videos on 4 finger plucking. He borrowed a classical guitar approach called PIMA (Spanish for TIMR).

I played fingerstyle guitar decades ago so it came very natural to me. Opens up lots of string muting, string jumping, and chordal options.

@Groove Doctor
Sorry I’m just now returning to this thread (I’m not even sure how long it’s been.. Months at least!). But I wanted to thank you for your reply, and ask about your particular style & background as a fingerstyle guitarist. Did you sight read the vast majority of what you played & used long manicured fingernails/acrylic’s as in Classical or Flamenco?? Did you use a Thumbpick in a drop thumb style like Chet Atkins or perhaps modern drop/alt tuning acoustic similar to players like Don Ross, Or Alex Di Grassi?? Just bare fingers (i.e.; Mark Knopfler)?
Im curious because I absolutely agree thats extremely beneficial & transfers well to a 3/4 finger bass guitar style..
I have a guitarist’s background as well as 3-fingerpick style Banjo (Think Bela Fleck). For roughly 13yrs starting age 6 forward.. I was actually a pretty serious player, My father was/is a touring professional. But being that young starting out.. Really only the later yrs matter! Then I committed 100% to double bass & bass guitar full time.. And man all that time running three finger Thmb-I-R backwards/forwards/hybrid banjo rolls, & single string variations.. Gave me a HUGE advantage when I got into Vic Wooten’s Open-Hmr-Pluck, Double Thumb & Double pluck stuff!! I swear it seems like Ive always been really good with busy, technical slap style soloing and the like..
Lastly as it relates to 3/4 finger bass playing the most natural and impressive player’s I’ve come across are Dominique Di Piazza (holy sh*%!) & Damien Erskine. Naturally I’m well aware of Matt Garrison although I feel his thing is less natural or intuitive and his ability has, at least in some part.. to do with his ridiculously expensive & super unique/custom spec’d Fodera’s. With something like 14.5mm string spacing, action so low strings are touching frets, not to mention the exotic hand carved, Match radiused wood ramp encapsulating the pickups.. All reinforcing accuracy, low string attack pressure, plus a consistent physical reference point that accelerates development & muscle memory.. Just my 2cents!