That's not very doomy!
But I certainly get along with the idea of micing the cab. I often like to push smaller cabinets harder and let the PA fill the room.
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Reactive load recommendation for Sunn amp
- Thread starter BassDaddySky
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But I certainly get along with the idea of micing the cab. I often like to push smaller cabinets harder and let the PA fill the room.
It sounds amazeballs paired with my short scale and a 2x15 under it!
Our Singer is pushing a theramin into his Orange setup.
Not 100% that's a Sunn cab, but it could be. Even had the correct style of casters.
But the nameplate was cheap lol
Definitely looking into miking? micing? ... Utilizing a microphone
Our Singer is pushing a theramin into his Orange setup.
Not 100% that's a Sunn cab, but it could be. Even had the correct style of casters.
But the nameplate was cheap lol
Definitely looking into miking? micing? ... Utilizing a microphone
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Definitely not a Sunn cab. Not Sunn style casters, either.
A pre amp signal splitter between your bass and the amps is one. I'm not seeing the need to have both amps interfacing.
One other point is @ 65 watts, you many not even notice it's on with the other rig generating twice the decibels.
Thats the point, loud band.
So slave amp was the idea.
So stage volume is even.
Front of house is "basically" slave amping anyway
Now imagine there is no house and I wanna be loud.
I was just asking how to do it safely/correctly
And now I've got a few options, thanks to y'all
Gonna explore the mic to separate amp or the PA option next.
We have extra mics, and a PA in the practice space.
Vocals and drum triggers go to the PA already...
Experimenting should be fun
Yes, its pretty rockin'
And im trading stuff for a second 2×15 so it'll rock even more at 4 ohms im sure.
Have you heard of DOOM? More is more
If you're using that 2x15", did you check the current ohm load? It's quite common to see two 8 ohm speakers wired in parallel, yielding 4 ohms. You may already be there. Also, as this cab looks altered already, it would be to your advantage to know what drivers are in there…wattage and ohms.Yes, its pretty rockin'
And im trading stuff for a second 2×15 so it'll rock even more at 4 ohms im sure.
Have you heard of DOOM? More is more
In case you've never heard this before, here's a tune with a Gibson EB-1 bass going into a pushed(perhaps dimed)Sunn 60-watt bass head with a proper Sunn 2x15, most likely JBL D-140…
I once saw a doomy band (can't remember the band, but they were a decently popular band maybe 20 years ago when I saw them on tour) playing a medium-sized bar in Denver bar with a Sunn 300T (300 watt tube bass amp) for one of the two guitars through two 4x12s. I shared a rehearsal space with a guitarist who used a Verellen Meatsmoke amp (also 300 tube watt bass amp) for guitar. Then of course Al from Sleep/Om/etc with a wall of speakers and amps even when I saw him perform in bars. Indeed MORE is more! I can't say I ever really see that kind of amplifier firepower on small stages anymore though- even my relatively compact 6x10 w/ 250 watt tube head bass rig got dirty looks from sound guys and promoters in a number of venues starting around 15 years ago in LA (before I'd even turned it on!), and the only time I regularly see more than a half-stack in a smaller venue these days is in the DIY warehouse spots. I guess it depends on where you live and the kinds of places you play.Yes, its pretty rockin'
And im trading stuff for a second 2×15 so it'll rock even more at 4 ohms im sure.
Have you heard of DOOM? More is more
I would start with another cab for the other amp, matching preferably. That should give you another 3 dB. OR buy 2 more efficient cabs for the other amp.
MIc'ing your cab would work If you have good monitors In addition to the FOH.
That said, in a loud band, a 65 watts head is not likely going to generate much of anything you can hear. My whole point is your focus needs to be on how many decibels you need to solve your problem.
Something I forgot to mention RE: the "crossover" approach- once you take the lows out of the low-wattage tube amp, it can quickly tend to overpower the bass side particularly when driven into distortion. Lows take alot of power to reproduce! So you may still want to rock the Sunn through a relatively small guitar cab if you ever experiment with a crossover type rig- I've played with guitarists with 20-30 watt tube guitar combos that could absolutely crank on stage. Getting that balance between the overdriven guitar amp and clean bass amp takes a bit of trial and error with what frequency the crossover occurs and the kind of rig you need for each. In my earliest/main use-case that I mentioned earlier I was using a solid-state guitar combo, so was able to get the saturation I wanted at any volume. I currently have an old Rivera 50 watt guitar combo with a single 12" speaker and doing the same sort of crossover rig with that amp on bass can be a lot tweakier because that amp gets LOUD fast. Fortunately I have all the gear on hand to dial it in right.
