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Recording Ric 4003

Discussion in 'Recording Gear and Equipment [BG]' started by plav1959, Jun 15, 2019.

  1. Jun 15, 2019 #1
    plav1959

    plav1959

    May 7, 2016
    Orlando, FL
    Complete noob question, so apologies in advance. I’m looking to record myself playing along to Chris Squire. Equipment being used:
    - Rick 4003 into homemade ric-o-sound splitter
    -Rumble 40 (neck pickup)
    -Studio 40 (bridge pickup - SVT emulation)

    I’m using Logic Pro X as a DAW. Also have a Focusrite 2i4 and a Behringer QX1202 USB mixer. Really inexperienced at all of this. Not looking for anything studio quality at this point, just something passable. TIA
     
  2. Jun 15, 2019 #2
    DirkP

    DirkP

    Jan 18, 2013
    Hamburg and Berlin, Germany
    2 channels for Mr. Squiere, two channels for your Ric.

    1. Plug everything besides the Behringer mixer into the focusrite
    2. Throw the mixer away
    3. Press the record button in Logic!

    On edit: I have nothing against Behringer products but the cheap mixers are really crap.
     
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  3. Jun 15, 2019 #3
    And I

    And I

    Feb 19, 2009
    Witchtown, MA
    I agree you don't need the mixer for this, and I wouldn't use that one for recording. But it is a good utility to have for extra monitoring options in the studio and might be good for submixing some things on stage.
     
  4. Jun 16, 2019 #4
    Axstar

    Axstar Inactive

    Jul 8, 2016
    Scotland.
    Is it worth the hassle? Chris Squire used his 4001 (and modded 4001S/RM1999) in stereo so that he could route each pickup through different effects. The signals were effectively mixed back together. On Close To The Edge, Fragile and the other classic albums you don't hear each pickup split across the stereo field. There is a bit of the stereo splitting, from memory, on The Yes Album alone.

    Chris Squire and co also didn't adhere to the rigorous dogma of sending the bridge pickup through a dirty channel and the neck pickup through a clean bassy channel. This gives you a weak, rumbly, fizzy tone unless you mix it very well. Beyond that, the treble stuff will all get lost in a band setting anyway. At worst you get a sort of 'swarm of bees following your otherwise dull bass tone' type effect.

    The conventional wisdom is that you run the bridge pickup into your fuzz/drive/distortion pedals and keep the neck clean. For maximum confusion, Squire actually routed his neck pickup into a Maestro Brassmaster fuzz pedal, and kept the bridge pickup clean. This is how you get the pillowy fuzz and hard attack on tracks like 'Silently Falling' on his Fish Out of Water album.

    I made my 4003 recording friendly by fitting Joe Barden humbuckers and completely shielding it. Before that it was a noisy antenna for all sorts of background interference. Add the ground hum from hooking one up to a pair of amps and you have a bit of a nightmare for home recording.

    Stereo is fun and all, but at the last recording session my 4003 was run mono into a TC amp with a couple of exotic mics in front, and that was enough for the needs of my band.
     
  5. Jun 16, 2019 #5
    tfer

    tfer

    Jan 1, 2014
    Logic comes with a mixer. Use it.

    Get an interface with dual inputs, and blaze away.