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Replacing the Trace Elliot 1510X speakers

LWB

LWB

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Sep 13, 2014
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I've got a trace elliot 1510X bass cab (horn and port) that I've never been happy with. After years of hauling around an 8x10, I wanted something smaller and really liked how a friend's GK 15 sounded. When a friend of a friend was moving out of town, I picked up his 1510X for $160 hoping I could get the same results.

I'm using a GK 800RB head that does 8ohm @ 200watt / 4ohm @ 300watt with a bi-amp option that does 16ohm @ 60watt / 8ohm @ 100 watt.

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I still need to open up my cab and see what exactly TE has inside as net searches haven't given me much info other than the cab being labelled as 300watt.

I'm thinking about replacing the 15 with a 8ohm 200/300watt 42hz -3.5khz
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And then replacing the 10 with a 8ohm 300watt 80hz-5khz

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Would having these two speakers enabled in full range give odd results with the difference in frequencies?

Also thinking of rewiring them so each speaker has its own jack. Then I can tinker with using the 10 in the bi-amp settings to control the volume of the two speaker separately with the head's crossover controls. Still trying to fully understand how the bi-amp setting works as I've never had a two cab set up for testing.

I've heard a lot of negative opinions concerning cabs with multiple speaker sizes as well; which has prompted me to consider using just a 15" speaker. A friend suggested that the larger cab may even play into the 15 better than if I used a modern cab specifically designed for a just a 15.

Do you guys have any feedback or advice?
 
#2
Only advice I can give is that you need to do more research.

Bass cabs are not like guitar cabs, and you do not simply drop another speaker in the hole and expect great results.

You need to measure your internal volume and porting, then model different speakers to see which will work with the least amount of cab re-engineering.
 
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Definitely feels like the research is endless and I have yet to meet someone in town (Vancouver) that can point me in the right direction. Searching this forum has already been a massive help. I feel like no matter how much I read, there will still be an element of trial and error as I try to understand all the aspects involved.
 
#4
Afaik there is no separate chamber for the 10''. Less than ideal in biamp when the ten is pushed about from the inside by the 15. Even less ideal running both fullrange unless separately amped to cater to power handling deficit of the ten.

By all accounts it sounds good as is, presumably it has passive crossover. Probably leave well enough alone?

It would be an interesting project to repurpose the box with high performance woofers and biamp it. Silly money though.
 
#6
Personal opinion maybe? I've been happy with my 800RB/American Standard J-Bass tone through GK 115s, Ampeg 810s, Mark Bass 410s, and even random 210s.

I should sit in front of the TE 1510X and write down/post everything I dislike as I play. It's just overall dissatisfaction. My best description from last jam was the low end (E, F, F#, G) felt wobbly in the sustain.
 
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A little bit warmer in a sense, right that's what I would expect likewise.
In a secand step I would try to counter-check this impression with a quality headphone.
Do this check with same bass guitar and same preamp and (if possible) same power amp.
I assume it's the bass guitar (or the current set of strings) that is responsible for "flat" and "muddy" sound of the E-string.
 
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