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Roscoe Basses By VroomVroom(TM)

And you do like to have a backup bass, don't you, Ryan? Two Roscoes is better than one?

Sorry, I'm evil... :rollno:

Absolutely. However, finances won't allow it for awhile. I think I better get the first one here before worrying about a backup, also.:p

But if all goes well and turns out well with this one that's on order, I have a feeling we'll be talking sometime after the first of the year about a second one (either a 6er or a wide spaced unlined fretless 5). I'd get more use out of the fretless, methinks, as I really miss having one. We'll see.
 
Here are some sound clips of this bass bundled with another lesson. We'll stick with the G major scale, brush the topic of "modes" ever so slightly, and learn some arpeggios. The first clip is slow and square on purpose, I want you guys to be able to play along if this is new to you. Feel free to speed up the exercise on your own if you're up to it.

So first up, you can read about what an arpeggio is here. Not much to it, we're just outlining a chord one note at a time ascending and/or descending. This exercise will get you familiar with the arpeggios of all 7 chords in the Major scale. In G Major, those chords are:
Gmaj7
A-7
B-7
Cmaj7
D7
E-7
F#dim

I've been talking about G Major in terms of numbers like this:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
G A B C D E F#

But it might help to think of them now as:
G: I
A: ii
B: iii
C: IV
D: V
E: vi
F#: vii

Capital letters denote major modes (I, IV and V are all major), and lower case letters denote non-major modes (ii, iii and vi are minor, and vii is diminished). They also each have a Greek name associated with them (I=Ionian, ii=Dorian, iii=Phrygian, etc.). I like to teach people those terms eventually, but at the beginning it just adds a layer of unnecessary complexity. Let's stick with numbers for a while!

So we're going to play arpeggios consisting of the pitches 1, 3, 5 and 7 in each of the 7 modes.

The Gmaj7 arpeggio is simply 1 3 5 7 (or G B D F#)

When we switch to A-7, 1 3 5 7 is A C E G (or 2 4 6 8 if G Major is your reference).

Similary, for B-7, 1 3 5 7 is B D F# A (or 3 5 7 9 if G is your reference). And on and on.

So in this clip, I'm going up and down each arpeggio, starting at I, then ii, then iii, etc. on up to I again (albeit an octave higher). Here's the same clip with just the chords - try playing the arpeggios yourself over these chords.

Here's one way to finger these:
I (Gmaj7): E:3 A:2 A:5 D:4
ii (A-7): E:5 A:3 D:2 D:5
iii(B-7): E:7 A:5 D:4 D:7
IV (CMaj7): E:8 A:7 A:10 D:9
V (D7): E:10 A:9 A:12 D:10
vi (E-7): E:12 A:10 D:9 D:12
vii (F#dim): E:14 A:12 A:15 D:14
I (GMaj7): E:15 A:14 A:17 D:16

So what do you do with this kind of stuff? Nobody wants to sit in their room and plays scales and arpeggios all day. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do it, you do have to do it a little bit if you want to internalize it. But you also need to apply it in a real musical situation if you want to make it a natural, effortless part of your playing. Jerry's Invalid Link Removed solo over in the Roscoe forum is a great example of using this stuff with a healthy does of rhythm to make it interesting (both to the player and to the listener).

And here's some of me noodling in an quasi-arpeggiated fashion using this orange SKB-3006. The chords are D7, C and G (or V, IV, I in mode terms). Try all 7 of the arpeggios over each of these chords. Some will fit like a glove, and some might sound a little "out".

HINT: Really try the arpeggios that are a third above or a third below the chord (B-7 or F#dim over the D7, etc.). That can sound hipper than playing the D7 arpeggio over D7. You can make some hay addressing the chord directly with the matching arpeggio, but it gets old fast.

In the clip, I "address the changes" in the first pass, meaning I use the same arpeggios as the chords. In the second pass, I use B-7 over the D, A-7 over the C, then back to B-7 over the G and the D at the end. Try it yourself, here are the rhythm tracks.

Now I just need someone to give me an exercise to help me break out of my typewriter approach to rhythm when I solo... I do a phrase, pause, do another phrase, pause, do another phrase, pause... I can hear it while I'm playing, but it REALLY sticks out when I hear myself recorded... it drives me CRAZY that I can't seem to fix that on my own!! Help me, Dr. Jerry!
 
I suck at theory :(

Am I the only one that learned modes by their "real name" Ionian, dorian, phrigian (sp?), lyidian, mixolydian, aeolien and locrian? If so i feel stoopid :(
And also I know my notes with do-re-mi-fa-sol-la-si-do, and im not quick enough with the C,D,E,F,G,A,B,C...but that's something else

The set of arpeggio I mainly use/pract is the 7th (1st,3rd,5th,7th,8th,7th,5th,3rd,1st) And I play it in (kinda) something that's called the "cycle des quintes" in french i think it's called circle of fifths or something, good for the 12tones association with frets I've been told.

I'm not to sure of the therms I used and they might be mis-placed/used but heck im a theory noob, but this stuff helps me improvise and jam with other people once I can see what chords they're on and stuff, but then again im screwed when it comes to mix-modes and stuff I can't tell what it is.

Those lessons helps, thanks Greg :D
Oh and feel free to help my theory lack anybody, i like help :D
 
That's the idea, man! And it's totally my pleasure. It's funny, I usually learn more teaching than I do when I take a lesson. When you have to explain what you're doing so that someone else can understand it, you really have to understand it thoroughly yourself first.

If anybody else has little tidbits of info they'd like to present, please do! I think having a subject with a narrow scope and putting it together with some demonstrative sound clips is a great way for all of us to learn.
 
I suck at theory :(

Am I the only one that learned modes by their "real name" Ionian, dorian, phrigian (sp?), lyidian, mixolydian, aeolien and locrian? If so i feel stoopid :(
And also I know my notes with do-re-mi-fa-sol-la-si-do, and im not quick enough with the C,D,E,F,G,A,B,C...but that's something else

The set of arpeggio I mainly use/pract is the 7th (1st,3rd,5th,7th,8th,7th,5th,3rd,1st) And I play it in (kinda) something that's called the "cycle des quintes" in french i think it's called circle of fifths or something, good for the 12tones association with frets I've been told.

I'm not to sure of the therms I used and they might be mis-placed/used but heck im a theory noob, but this stuff helps me improvise and jam with other people once I can see what chords they're on and stuff, but then again im screwed when it comes to mix-modes and stuff I can't tell what it is.

Those lessons helps, thanks Greg :D
Oh and feel free to help my theory lack anybody, i like help :D

Yeah, I totally don't think in absolute notes (A, B, C, etc.) myself. That would be a nightmare!! I do, though, think in terms of numbers. "Time to leave the I and setup the IV" sort of thoughts go through my head while I play.

The only time I really pay attention to absolute notes is when I follow a chord chart. If the chart say C#-7, I'll find a C# and then I'll use shapes to figure out the rest of the "in" notes (I know what a minor 7 shape looks like, I just need to find the root).

Of course, that sort of thinking would get us all scolded by Victor. His ear is so good, he can play a note against a chord and immediately identify what relative pitch it is he's playing. Then he can adjust his mental framework and be right in the chord comfortably.

Here's a cool site for ear training, it'll help you get better at hearing relative pitches.
 
Someday I'll be the one helping and teaching

Dudes, we're all teaching and all learning at the same time. I'm sure Jerry can play circles around me in general, but I'm also sure I could show him a thing or two. Similarly, I have no doubt that you guys have something to offer, as well, right now.

I get a real kick out of hearing how different players perceive their instrument. You'd be suprised how many different ways there are to "see" the fretboard. In addition to taking bass lessons with Cameron, I also take lessons from a fantastic guitar player (Greg Albert) who teaches here at Rocket Music. He says the fretboard lights up like a Christmas tree for him, it shows him all the "in" notes. I'm almost to the point where that happens for me in G Major. But if I switch to Eb Major, blackout!

And Ziltoid - you're right on about the Circle of Fifths thing. That's what I'm planning for my next session with ya'll. Once you have a basic exercise down, what can you do to it to make it more challenging, make you learn it all over the fretboard, make you learn it in every key? Well, you do it over two octaves, you do it in the circle of fifths, you alternate up & down, etc. Too fun!
 
Yeah, Few weeks ago I knew nothing about theory, Didn't even knew my notes, but I started taking lessons back and it's totally worth it, I have a super teacher, but I'm a slow learner :(
So Darkstrike get to work it's not hard
edit: Well not hard, I can't really tell to be like a pro, but to be at my noob level it's easy :D
 
Hey, Fred,

I went through an Alembic F-1X preamp straight into a Boss BR-600 recorder. The Boss unit does a few things to it (like reverb that I haven't been able to figure out how to control - fortunately, it sounds good). The F-1X is set pretty much flat (which isn't really flat, but I've never committed to memory what flat is on that unit). It just sounds good set that way to my ears.

I usually fatten up the onboard EQ for the bass bass parts (favor the neck PUP, boost the bass a hair), and I thin it for the rhythm bass parts (favor the bridge PUP quite a bit and cut the bass). That sets up a nice canvas onto which I'll put the lead bass track which usually has the bass setup somewhere in between the two (blend in the middle, slight bass boost & some mid boost).

I'm fighting the input gain on the recorder. If I set it where it should be, the tone stinks. And if I set it where it just starts to sound good, I'll overdrive it every now and then. I might need to start compressing before I go into the recorder. I hate to do that, I don't want to color the tone of these clips much... but I also don't like the distortion I'm getting.
 
The push-pull is a frequency selector switch for the mid control, it changes the midpoint of the mid filter. I'm not sure what the frequencies are, but the pulled one seems fatter to me.

The screw on the back is a gain knob, either overall or just the mids.

Gard will know the details.... Gard? Little help?