Rumble 500 Combo and 410

[DerekW]

Yes the

Yes - That's what I've decided. I was just trying to understand why a 410 might not be a good idea.

But I don't want to beat a dead horse, so I'll bow out now.

No, no, don't feel that way, it is very confusing.

Basically, if you eq it poorly and really bass heavy, and base the volume on what you're hearing out of the 410, then you might be putting the 210 at risk.

Having said all that, I just realized that the 210 extension that has the exact same speakers is rated for 700watts.

So.... you're good, lol

 

[Scott C.]

So it wouldn't be the greatest idea to put the 500 combo on an 8x10? Cause that sure would look cool, if nothing else.

 

[DerekW]

So it wouldn't be the greatest idea to put the 500 combo on an 8x10? Cause that sure would look cool, if nothing else.

Lol, might be a point of diminishing returns there.

 

[Dale Griffith]

So it wouldn't be the greatest idea to put the 500 combo on an 8x10? Cause that sure would look cool, if nothing else.

Except you'd need a stepstool to adjust the knobs on the 500.

 

[Dale Griffith]

Yes - That's what I've decided. I was just trying to understand why a 410 might not be a good idea.

But I don't want to beat a dead horse, so I'll bow out now.

We specialize in beating dead horses around here so don't be surprised if this thread goes on for another hundred posts.

 

[CalBuzz51]

This is what I'm struggling to understand. Used by itself, the combo speakers can handle 350 watts.
When used with an external cab, the internal speakers get less than 350 watts.
So how could they ever get damaged, even if run full out (which I most likely would never do).

The 115 I blew was rated at 450w at 8ohms, I was using a 300w amp. So it can be done! I was doing very stupid things tho.

 

[Scott C.]

Except you'd need a stepstool to adjust the knobs on the 500.

Worth it.

 

[Old Garage-Bander]

So it wouldn't be the greatest idea to put the 500 combo on an 8x10? Cause that sure would look cool, if nothing else.

If I had a Rumble 500 combo and an 8x10 cab, I might be inclined to do the following.
(This assumes the combo is out of warranty or you don't care about the warranty.)

Install a set of Jack's on the combo that break the connection between the amp's output and the internal speakers.
Then have a speaker cable to connect the two jacks and use the combo as you would normally.
For the 8x10 pull out the speaker cable connecting the two jacks and feed the amp output to the 8x10 instead of the internal speakers.

Now you have a Rumble 500 head, that just happens to be inside a combo box.
This gives you 350 watts into an 8x10 if it is an 8 ohm cab or 500 watts if the 8x10 is 4 Ohms.
Or if you want to be really cool and register vibrations on a nearby seismic sensor, use two 8 Ohm, 8x10's
Leave the 8x10(s) at your rehearsal venue and take the combo home to practice there.

Or just get another head to Use with the big cab(s). Leave the combo at home or bring it to a gig as your

 

[Meghans Dad]

The 115 I blew was rated at 450w at 8ohms, I was using a 300w amp. So it can be done! I was doing very stupid things tho.

I bought it used and didn't get a manual, but I took a look at it online.






This is what I'm struggling to understand. Used by itself, the combo speakers can handle 350 watts.
When used with an external cab, the internal speakers get less than 350 watts.
So how could they ever get damaged, even if run full out (which I most likely would never do).

No, you won't damage the internal speakers when connecting externals of sufficient resistance (ohms).What you are doing in effect is spreading the load.

 

[Meghans Dad]

The 115 I blew was rated at 450w at 8ohms, I was using a 300w amp. So it can be done! I was doing very stupid things tho.

Can't help but wonder if the manufacturer of the speaker cab overstated its capacity of the amp maker understated its output......nah, they wouldn't do that.

 

[Old Garage-Bander]

Can't help but wonder if the manufacturer of the speaker cab overstated its capacity of the amp maker understated its output......nah, they wouldn't do that.

Well considering there is more than one way to express the power handling ability of a speaker and the power output rating of an amp, I don't see the possibility of any confusion or problem at all. No-sir not one tiny bit.