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Sean Hurley Fender CS P-Bass / String Mute Q

Ordering one regardless, however wondering if the string mute is 1) attached to the bridge, or 2) attached directly to the body.

I called Fender today; they “believe” it comes un-mounted and isn’t body-fixed (?). I didn’t leave the call with a Whole Lotta Confidence in the answer...

Any help; thanks from KC
 
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Also note that it does not sound exactly like loose random foam stuffed under the strings, not that there is a consistent sound for that either, carol k’s foam muting sounded difference to than Jameson’s, which sounds different than (pick your next bassist with a mute). It does sound cool, I have a video on the link above that gives you an idea what it sounded like on mine. How you fine tune it has an effect as well, sometime mine gets a longer sustain and almost bowed upright sound than a typical foam piece. You can hear that on the video a bit too.
 
Ordering one regardless, however wondering if the string mute is 1) attached to the bridge, or 2) attached directly to the body.

I called Fender today; they “believe” it comes un-mounted and isn’t body-fixed (?). I didn’t leave the call with a Whole Lotta Confidence in the answer...

Any help; thanks from KC
Firstly, congrats you lucky dog. I've heard nothing but good things about this bass.

Secondly, it would be attached - as @whitelines has demonstrated, it requires some drilling that Fender wouldn't be expecting buyers to do on a nice expensive bass!

@whitelines, I read this a few years ago but reading it again has me tempted to give it a try...
 
Not to dis Sean Hurley or Fender, but if I were McGyvering my bass with a muting device, I would not design it to require additional body drilling. Seems that the metal hardware could have been designed with ears that fit at the bridge or cover attachment screws. Maybe they considered and discarded that option for some reasons, but I would prefer to use a “random” slab of foam, rather than drill several new holes into the body of my bass.
 
It’s attached to the body. A friend of mine and I installed one on a bass. I did a writeup here that explains how we did it. Installing a Jaguar Mute on a P-Bass
I figured the Fender call support was a little off on this. Your time and effort in putting the doc are apparent; a tremendous thanks for doing & sharing this. Question:

Is it possible the securing screws may eventually float due to the varying-use pressure on the bottom-side of the screw heads? I acknowledge I may be over-thinking this...but we are talking about a 4K (MAP) bass LOL....
 
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I figured the Fender call support was a little off on this. Your time and effort in putting the doc are apparent; a tremendous thanks for doing & sharing this. Question:

Is it possible the securing screws may eventually float due to the varying-use pressure on the bottom-side of the screw heads? I acknowledge I may be over-thinking this...but we are talking about a 4K (MAP) bass LOL....

not 4k after someone drills additional holes in it! I mean cmon fender, get ur sh*t together!
 
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I have one and the mute works fine but as whitelines mentioned, it doesn't sound like the typical owner-installed foam mute. And yes, the Fender mute is factory installed. The setup on the Hurley is very similar to the one that Fender has used on the Jaguar guitar since 1962.

I keep a larger self-installed mute on a Fender Jazz that is my go-to studio bass. It mutes more than the Hurley one but both do what they are supposed to do depending on the desired level of muting.

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I have one and the mute works fine but as whitelines mentioned, it doesn't sound like the typical owner-installed foam mute. And yes, the Fender mute is factory installed. The setup on the Hurley is very similar to the one that Fender has used on the Jaguar guitar since 1962.

I keep a larger self-installed mute on a Fender Jazz that is my go-to studio bass. It mutes more than the Hurley one but both do what they are supposed to do depending on the desired level of muting.

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Not to dis Sean Hurley or Fender, but if I were McGyvering my bass with a muting device, I would not design it to require additional body drilling. Seems that the metal hardware could have been designed with ears that fit at the bridge or cover attachment screws. Maybe they considered and discarded that option for some reasons, but I would prefer to use a “random” slab of foam, rather than drill several new holes into the body of my bass.

I mean, Fender basses did originally come with a mute attached to the underside of the bridge cover...

not 4k after someone drills additional holes in it! I mean cmon fender, get ur sh*t together!
As mentioned, it's drilled from the factory, doesn't need to be fitted by the customer.
 
Glad everyone likes the writeup. the bass I put it on was a 2012 Fender Select I bought a few years ago. Originally retails for $2400, I got a floor model for $900, which was a steal. I’d be surprised if they sold a ton at $2400, but it is a really pretty and really nice American fender bass with some nice upgrades. If I’d paid retail for it and didn’t have a woodworker friend with experience and good tools I wouldn’t have done it, but I’m an engineer by day and love mechanisms. I’d have no issue putting it on a non-vintage run of the mill bass, it is a neat, though kind of crude mechanism.

Re: other bass mute gizmos:
My daughter has a bass that she installed a “Bass Mute”, a product that is mentioned here on the forum. It’s mechanism is really, really slick, and can be attached with double sided tape. They are hard to get however.
The Nordstrand mute looks like it would be simple and effective.

Re: Sean Hurley signature bass.
I actually bought a used 2014 Sean Hurley model a few weeks ago. I came across it online at the Chicago Music Exchange site and in a fit of unplanned Covid stir-crazy-ness, kind of grabbed on impulse, knowing that they rarely come up on the used market. When I received it, I’d already had buyers remorse and was thinking of sending it back (it was definitely not a $900 steal of a deal!), especially when I saw it did not have the cool finished checking like @WoodyJ ’s above. It’s certificate says closet classic, and the relicing is fairly light. I had three days to decide to send it back and damn if I didn’t end up really liking it. It sounds great, and plays really well. I’ve since sold a couple of other basses and some gear to dull my guilty wallet. I am admittedly a big fan of Sean’s playing, as well as his overall attitude and approach to bass, I’ve learned a lot by transcribing in detail a couple of his cool parts. See my blog link or Instagram feed (@wallybarnum) if you want to download the one I did of his Scott’s bass lesson video with David Ryan Harris. At the start of the pandemic, I contacted Sean and had a Skype lesson with him (the pandemic gave a lot of big name bass players unplanned free time). He’s every bit as cool as he seems online.
Does buying a Sean Hurley bass make you sound like Sean Hurley? Nope, but you’ll get a damn fine custom shop bass, so congratulations @KCFrets !
 
I figured the Fender call support was a little off on this. Your time and effort in putting the doc are apparent; a tremendous thanks for doing & sharing this. Question:

Is it possible the securing screws may eventually float due to the varying-use pressure on the bottom-side of the screw heads? I acknowledge I may be over-thinking this...but we are talking about a 4K (MAP) bass LOL....
No, the whole thing is really solid, it would take a hell of a lot of force to rip out the mounting screw.
 
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