• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Short Scale for my kid

Some points that I don’t think I have been said yet:

1) If you want to go as expensive as the sterling stingray shorty (maybe you want to play it yourself, lol), it’s awesome and it feels even smaller than the competition due to the bridge placement and the 3+1 headstock.

2) Used Squier jag short scale runs $259-300 and has awesome ergonomics.

3) the opposite of these basses is the gretsch sounds great but feels bigger than the others due to bridge placement and all the sharp corners.

I went with the jag myself because the price was right and I’m a mastodon fan, but there are days I wish I grabbed the stingray
 
I bought my daughter a Squire Bronco for her first bass and it was great. Did the job and cost less than $200 CAD in case you are worried she might lose interest. Needed a little set up action on day one, but easy enough to straighten neck and drop the action a little. She became the bass player for her elementary school choir and when they performed on the last day of school she asked if she could use my Sadowsky NYC...so for her final concert in elementary school she looked (and sounded) like a absolute pro.

IMG_4182.JPG


IMG_4183.JPG
 
As someone who has helped several kids and teens get started playing, it's important that they have some say in the selection. Doesn't matter how good it is if they don't pick it up and play it.
100%!!!! Give her a short list of 3-5 basses. If at all possible, find somewhere to try some. (I know this is hard with SS's, as their selection is limited at best.) Either way, give her a choice, she might surprise you which one she chooses.
 
Also, if I may comment on other recommendations, I disagree with the MiKro. That is a fine bass, but if she sticks with it, she will outgrow it. The MiKro is designed for a niche customer base (pun intended). Also, it is much easier to find different string sets in conventional short scale than MiKro scale.

I'm 50 and 6'1" and haven't "outgrown" a Mikro. And there are a lot of regular short scale strings that fit it just fine.
 
  • Like
Reactions: AG42 and HaphAsSard
I'm 50 and 6'1" and haven't "outgrown" a Mikro. And there are a lot of regular short scale strings that fit it just fine.
You didn't read the rest of my post. I also said the MiKro is for a niche customer base, of which you are one, and I hope you enjoy it. I stand by my comments, having helped a friend of mine set up and upgrade the pickups on a MiKro because he also is in the niche customer base with small hands. Myself, having played bass for @ forty-seven years, and helping more bass players than I can remember with lessons, setups, modifications, general advice, and so forth, it is better that a young player go the direction of a "conventional" well set up instrument at first to see what the aptitude and interest is and see if the student will grow into the physicality of an instrument, standard scale, short scale, or otherwise. She may in time prefer: no instrument, a "Fender standard" instrument, an instrument with a 35-inch scale, a MiKro herself, or anything else. But any music educator will tell you that you start young people on "standard" instruments to see where they go from there. This isn't a new concept. I say again: ask any beginning band instrument teacher in any public or private school that has a program, including my friend whom I set up and upgraded the pickups on his MiKro, who does not play a full size bass for that reason. Did you ever see a "short scale" trumpet, trombone, clarinet, or saxophone? And yet, young students who can hardly cover the spread of the valves, keys, or reach the positions fully master these instruments, no different than standard fretting. Leo Fender knew this: the original MusicMaster 30-inch scale bass was marketed as a "student" bass.

And BTW, I also play in a ukulele group where I use a Kala U-Bass with its 21-inch scale; my hands no longer can deal with 34-inch "Fender standard" scale due to old injuries, curved pinky fingers, and arthritis setting in. My main gig bass has a 33-inch scale; I own several 32-inch basses; my travel bass is a 30-inch scale as set forth above; and even all those years ago when I played a double bass for a jazz band and still had a reach with my left hand I had a false nut installed to decrease the scale length, called mensure on a double bass, for comfort. Oh - I also still play tuba in community band as well, now in my forty-sixth year since as a scrawny 120-pound freshman shouldered a full-size sousaphone for marching band as a freshman in high school. Don't under-estimate the ability of young players to make the instrument of their interest work.

I do agree there may be some sets of short scale strings that fit a MiKro, but for a student, the ability to find a good set of strings that conventionally fits the bass so you can teach the student how to mount a new set of strings in a straightforward manner without any of the machinations that a person sometimes has to process to get a string to fit a particular non-standard scale bass is paramount to lessening frustration in the student and encouraging ongoing interest in the instrument, no different than the manufacturers who make fractional scale strings for the various conventional fractional student sizes of the classical string instruments.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: ray_castro
Did you ever see a "short scale" trumpet, trombone, clarinet, or saxophone?

I don't know much about brass/winds, but everything in the violin family comes in multiple sizes, as you've mentioned.

Putting LaBella tapes on my Mikro was exactly the same easy process as putting Chromes on my 30" fretless, there were no "machinations" required.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HaphAsSard
I don't know much about brass/winds, but everything in the violin family comes in multiple sizes.
Re-read my post as edited. For classical instruments, proper retail stores, in conjunction with both private teachers and school conductors, have a special yardstick that they measure the students with to see if they should start on a 1/2, 3/4 or full size instrument. The difference between classical instrument players and electric bass players is that in addition to the classical instruments are standardized that a student is expected to immediately jump to the next size instrument as soon as their physicality indicates a change. Of course, the cost of good classical instruments makes the instruments discussed on this thread look like dime store fodder. This is also unlike electric instruments, which are more akin to school concert band instruments, which have no "sizes," so that you start a student on an instrument that the size is already established, in this case a conventional 30-inch short scale bass.
 
Guys - I should be clear
I've been playing bass since the late '80s, I own 6 full-size instruments and a uke-bass-thing. We've tried them. The Uke-bass physically fits her, but it's fretless and frankly too weird.
This short-scale isn't intended to be a long-term thing - it's a learning bass for a 9-year-old girl who's too physically small to reach the 1st fret on a 34" scale instrument. If she sticks with it and wants a full size down the line, I'll worry about a 'good' grown-up bass.
 
My daughter, at 10 years old is finally expressing consistent interest in playing an instrument. She's small, and my standard scale basses are way too big for her.
What a great excuse to buy another bass!

I've been looking at short-scale. This is a beginner bass, so keeping the budget in check - so no Danelectro or Mustangs. I've basically narrowed down to 3 - the all functionally cost the same.
Invalid Link Removed
Invalid Link Removed
Ibanez TMB30

I know the miKro has a cult following around here. Thoughts on the other options are welcome. Happy to look at anything else in the $200-ish price range if folks have suggestions

the mikro’s really are excelllent. I like the TMB, especially the looks, but the neck is kind of oddly chunky, especially by comparison.
 
Update -
I went over to Guitar Center today and checked out some Basses. Much to my surprise, they had the Gretsch, Jackson, MiRko, and Mitchell in stock.
First thoughts
Gretsch was very nice, the full 30" scale is too big for these purposes. I'd consider one as an adult though
Jackson, looked like... a Jackson. My pink-horse-loving daughter won't go the the sharkfins
Mitchell - not bad... the fret end-work was crap, but not surprising in a sub $200 instrument.
MiRko - nicely put together. Honestly kinda freaky good for how cheap they are.

All of the instruments had a typical GC setup, as in none. The truss rods were completely slack and the strings were a buzzin' (oh Yeah, I remember now, I hate GC). I couldn't get a good idea for feel or sound. I told the salesman, who did not give a crap and said their tech was out. Was tempted to break out the feeler and tools myself, but... no, I'm not enabling this.

I think Mirko is the clear winner here.

I wonder how many people have quit playing frustrated after buying a badly prepped instrument from GC.
 
I think the Mikro is a great choice, if she likes it (she could pick the color, which there seem to be a bunch). I have the 5-string as a backup, and it irks me how decent it is. They sell the Ibanez strings at Sweetwater for super cheap, they fit perfect, sound fine, although they are kind of rough. They're coated and seem to last a long, long time. I'm 6'1" with big hands, and I love playing the little thing. It's bigger than a guitar, which I also play without feeling inadequate. I don't think switching scales is hard at all, so no biggie. Every bass I've had has something to get used to (extra string, extra frets, fat neck, etc.).