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Show your "Matsumoko factory" basses !

I got this Washburn B20 off a fellow TBer. He took the picture.

It is a 1980 and it's pristine. Barely played. Which is too bad because despite its "hard rock" appearance it actually has a smooth, sweet, mellow sound that is great for jazz, retro-prog, anything really!

I bet it does! That's a really well made instrument, by the looks of it :). I bet you got it for a very reasonable price too :hyper:. Sweet!
 
I just got this one a couple days ago. (this is the seller's pic) I'm in the process of cleaning it up and replacing a dodgy input jack. I'll string it up with some flats, give it a good setup and give my full report later.

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:hmm: That's an interesting question, cofoss.

To be honest with you, the only 5 string Matsumoko basses that I can recall from the 1980's (when they were producing their best instruments), were made by Westone.

It was towards the latter part of the 80s,

thank you! I read in the site you linked that the factory was destroyed by an earthquake in the late 80's... the westone pantera should be one of the latter productions in matsumoku if i got it right

great thread!
 
thank you! I read in the site you linked that the factory was destroyed by an earthquake in the late 80's... the westone pantera should be one of the latter productions in matsumoku if i got it right

great thread!

Really :eek:! I didn't know that about the factory.

It's funny, I've been thinking about Matsumoko basses a lot this week and wondering what made them suddenly stop producing basses - an earthquake would certainly do it :p!

Anyway, the reason that I've been thinking about Matsumoko basses this week, is that I've been waiting for a rather special bass to turn up on my doorstep and today ... it did :hyper:!

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As you can see, it's a Westone Thunder 1A bass.

So, why is it "special" :confused:? Well, a few couple of reasons, really. First off, it was made in 1981* (the very first year of production, I believe) and is in unbelievable condition for a 27 year old instrument :eek:!

*EDIT: I was wrong about this, it was made in 1983. I just learned how to read Westone serial numbers ;).


Secondly, it was a nostalgia purchase :smug:. My very first bass was a Thunder 1A, from 1985, in all black finish. In fact, here it is :) ....

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I was really curious to see how it feel to go back to playing one of these after so many years (and so many other basses ;)), so when this one came along, I just had to buy it and find out.

The first thing that surprised me, after I'd unpacked it, was the build quality of the thing :eek:. Everything was well engineered, with some high quality woods and very costly looking brass hardware and electronics - this was no "budget", budget instrument (if you follow me ;)).

After I'd given it a good clean up (including polishing lots of corrosion off the bridge (the "after" picture is below ;)), I set it up and gave it a punt. :bassist: The playability was wonderful. The neck really felt like "home" to me, perhaps not surprisingly, as it was all I had for the first two years of playing :p. It turned out to be surprisingly good for slapping too (although I'm not really much good at it :D).

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I'd like to say that the sounds blew me a way too, but if I did, I'd be lying ;). It was very good in active mode with little or no bass or treble boost, but it has a strange "left/right" rotary control that allows you to boost either bass or treble (but not both simultaneously :() and that really does limit things. Also, there's a very slight "wooliness" to the overall sound, which sounded pretty familiar to me, as I remember thinking that about my first one :hmm:. I reckon it's the pickup, to be honest! It looks well enough made and wound ....

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... but the bass doesn't seem to produce as "dynamic" a sound when amplified, as it does "acoustically", so I don't think that it's anything to do with the tone of the wood etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not complaining, it's a fantastic instrument for what it cost - I'm just being cautious not to make any extravagent claims about it, just because it's "my new bass" ;).

Anyway, I'm not going to modify it (despite having several tasty P Bass pickups in my box o' bits, at present ;) - it would be a crime to interfere with this lovely, original bass at this stage in it's history.

In fact, I think that I was the first person to have taken this bass to bits :hmm:. This is what I found in the neckpocket ...

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... wood shavings :confused:.

Speaking of wood, there' some really nice timber on this guitar, as you can see. From the crazy-grained ash :p, through the dark, tight-grained rosewood of the 'board, to the flame maple centre section of the 3-ply maple neck, it's quality all the way :smug:! Here's a couple of outdoor pics (from the seller), which better shows off the bright red clour of the translucent lacquer :).

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OK, I think that you get the idea now :p. It's an early Matsumoko bass and it's a corker!!!!

:ninja: Problem is, it's got me GASsing for a Thunder IIIA :D.
 
I Miss my Westone. I bought this on eBay for $100. I wish I had the before pix. It looked like it had sat in mud. The hardware and strings were rusted and oxidized. I disassembled it, polished the body up, replaced all of the hardware and installed EMG P/J pickups. Then I sent it off for a professional setup. I sold it about 6 months ago since I really dont play 4 strings too much any more. Although I would love to find a Concorde I or II.

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I Miss my Westone. I bought this on eBay for $100. I wish I had the before pix. It looked like it had sat in mud. The hardware and strings were rusted and oxidized. I disassembled it, polished the body up, replaced all of the hardware and installed EMG P/J pickups. Then I sent it off for a professional setup. I sold it about 6 months ago since I really dont play 4 strings too much any more. Although I would love to find a Concorde I or II.

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Well, you certainly did a fine job of cleaning it up, Alex :).

As for the Concorde I and II, there have been a couple for sale in the UK recently. The guy that I bought my Thunder from had just sold a black body, white p/g and maple necked, immaculate Concorde I and someone else let go a really pristine metallic red, white p/g, maple necked Concorde II last summer. I know that it doesn't help you now, but the point is that they're still out there and there still cheap for what they are :).

Incidentally, how much of a difference did the EMGs make to your (passive?) Thunder 1?
 
Well, you certainly did a fine job of cleaning it up, Alex :).

As for the Concorde I and II, there have been a couple for sale in the UK recently. The guy that I bought my Thunder from had just sold a black body, white p/g and maple necked, immaculate Concorde I and someone else let go a really pristine metallic red, white p/g, maple necked Concorde II last summer. I know that it doesn't help you now, but the point is that they're still out there and there still cheap for what they are :).

Incidentally, how much of a difference did the EMGs make to your (passive?) Thunder 1?
Thank you! I like doing this sort of thing. I plan on doing more in the future. Ahhh! It seems that there are quite a few Concorde basses for sale in the UK. My very first bass was a black and white Concorde II as you described. My parents bought it for me in 1982 or so. There were 2 up on the wall at a shop in San Jose named K & K music. The other was a seafoam green with white P/G. I got the black one!
Before I got rid of it around 1991 I installed a EMG P pickup. The EMG was a huge difference! It made the bass really punchy and fat, crisp, clean etc.
Same with the Thunder I, but more versatile with the added J.. Had I kept it I would have added some EMG tone circuitry to it.
 
Thank you! I like doing this sort of thing. I plan on doing more in the future. Ahhh! It seems that there are quite a few Concorde basses for sale in the UK. My very first bass was a black and white Concorde II as you described. My parents bought it for me in 1982 or so. There were 2 up on the wall at a shop in San Jose named K & K music. The other was a seafoam green with white P/G. I got the black one!
Before I got rid of it around 1991 I installed a EMG P pickup. The EMG was a huge difference! It made the bass really punchy and fat, crisp, clean etc.
Same with the Thunder I, but more versatile with the added J.. Had I kept it I would have added some EMG tone circuitry to it.

Alex, I was just reading through some posts on the Westone forum (oh yes, there is one ;), in the UK) and I found a picture of the Concord II that I was telling you about ...

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This forum would be a good place to look around for a Concord 1. I reckon. They don't have a "For Sale" section, but they seem to have quite a few members who buy and sell. Worth a try perhaps :).

Also, I was wrong about my Thunder 1A being from 1981 :(. Apparently, the first digit of the serial number is the 1980s year in which it was built (mine begins with a "3", so it's from 1983). I found that info here ;) ...

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Thanks FLK ;).

What bass are you working on at the moment then? Did I miss something :hmm:? I look forward to seeing the pics, whatever it is.

This is what it looked like prior to stripping it all down. The body will be red with possibly a checkerboard or white pearloid pickguard. I think it's a 640 model, 18v preamp. It's a TONE MONSTER!!! :) Of about 11 Electras I had, this one has the best neck and is the best player. I can't wait to get it back together.
 
This is what it looked like prior to stripping it all down. The body will be red with possibly a checkerboard or white pearloid pickguard. I think it's a 640 model, 18v preamp. It's a TONE MONSTER!!! :) Of about 11 Electras I had, this one has the best neck and is the best player. I can't wait to get it back together.

Yikes :eek:! That looks positively dangerous :p.

I know what you mean about those 18v pre-amps. My Thunder 1A has the same circuit and it kicks out more bottom end than any other active system I've ever had in a bass (and that includes Alembic, Wal, Status and Sadowsky ;)). Must be the ultimate "reggae bass" :D.

Your Electra looks very similar to the Spectrum Series, which were released in Europe (as I think I've mentioned before). What year does that bass hail from, FLK? Late 80's, perhaps :hmm: ?

Anyway, don't forget to post the pics here when it's done ;).
 
Yikes :eek:! That looks positively dangerous :p.

I know what you mean about those 18v pre-amps. My Thunder 1A has the same circuit and it kicks out more bottom end than any other active system I've ever had in a bass (and that includes Alembic, Wal, Status and Sadowsky ;)). Must be the ultimate "reggae bass" :D.

Your Electra looks very similar to the Spectrum Series, which were released in Europe (as I think I've mentioned before). What year does that bass hail from, FLK? Late 80's, perhaps :hmm: ?

Anyway, don't forget to post the pics here when it's done ;).

It has the Matsumoku neck plate so mid 80's, some time. I found that the preamp really over drove my Markbass LMII compared to my other basses. Once I turned the gain down it's not bad at all. Plenty of tonal range including a 70's style tank tone :)
 
New here.

Some pics of my 1982 Washburn SB-40 EQ bass. Had it for about 9 years now. When i first bought it i knew absolutly nothing about it. Searching on the net at that time yielded no results. 9 years later i thought i might as well try find a little more info about it and to my surprise (from what some people tell me) it is quite rare.

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Alex, I was just reading through some posts on the Westone forum (oh yes, there is one ;), in the UK) and I found a picture of the Concord II that I was telling you about ...

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This forum would be a good place to look around for a Concord 1. I reckon. They don't have a "For Sale" section, but they seem to have quite a few members who buy and sell. Worth a try perhaps :).

Also, I was wrong about my Thunder 1A being from 1981 :(. Apparently, the first digit of the serial number is the 1980s year in which it was built (mine begins with a "3", so it's from 1983). I found that info here ;) ...

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Hey thanks for the info! Dang! That red concord II is about the cleanest I have seen (other than new)
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Hey thanks for the info! Dang! That red concord II is about the cleanest I have seen (other than new)
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Yeah, it was a beaut, wasn't it :)? Although the Concord model was technically the "bottom" of the Westone bass range at that time, this bass was the top of the Concord range. A kind of "pimped VW Beetle", if you will :D (no hate mail from Beetle fans, please ;)).

That bass sold for only 200 UK Pounds. When you consider that a Korean/Chinese ( :hmm:?) made Squier P Bass Special (also P/J config) costs 175 GBP new, I'd say that the Westone looks like a pretty good investment - there's no comparing the two as far as build quality/materials are concerned!

Just my $0.02 ;)
 

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