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Sire Korea headless J basses
- Thread starter CoughSyrup
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- Jun 30, 2010
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Available in the US? I think they're pretty cool and a quasi-trad take on a headless platform.
Riis
Riis
I want one! I've been looking at headless basses for ages because I like the idea, but every one of them seems to have modern sounding humbuckers while I'm a P or J man at heart. This is right up my alley, hope they get a bunch of them to Europe.
Would've kind of liked it if it had some extra wood at where the headstock would be like on the M6 models though. Actually, they could've just taken the M6 hardware and neck, slapped it on this body style and call it a day.
Would've kind of liked it if it had some extra wood at where the headstock would be like on the M6 models though. Actually, they could've just taken the M6 hardware and neck, slapped it on this body style and call it a day.
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Sire headless basses seem to eschew the recessed tuning knobs that have characterized most other headless brands like Status Graphite, Ibanez, Kiesel and Steinberger, but those tuning knobs sure look exposed and subject to damage. This is most egregious on the M6 basses:
The recent innovation of top mounted bridge pieces by Riviera seems to offer a very practical alternative, although probably more challenging to install. I think top mounted hardware will be the future of headless bass design and the ubiquitous overhanging tuning knobs seem archaic now. The Riviera hardware would really look great on the Sire headless J bass.
The recent innovation of top mounted bridge pieces by Riviera seems to offer a very practical alternative, although probably more challenging to install. I think top mounted hardware will be the future of headless bass design and the ubiquitous overhanging tuning knobs seem archaic now. The Riviera hardware would really look great on the Sire headless J bass.
The new Dingwall Effigy headless model uses this Riviera hardware, or something very similar. It's a great looking option for sure.
Listen, we all know how neck heavy J & P basses are. This will solve the problem.
IMO, if you're a fan of Jazz basses and you travel for gigs on commercial airlines, this is a great option. Most headless basses are not J style, and having seen how airlines usually handle instruments, a low to moderate price headless J is a great idea for the working player who flies coach.
Yes! When the Effigy teasers first came out I thought Dingwall made their own proprietary one piece bridge based on the vertical Riviera design. Later on when more information was released it turns out the bridge was in fact designed in collaboration with Riviera. The only glitch in the Effigy one piece bridge is that for lefties they would have to make a completely reversed bridge (probably not going to happen), whereas individual bridge pieces can be arranged however you want. Ah well.
Well, headless instruments are more popular than ever, and I have heard people complain about a lack of more traditional body shapes in headless, so there may very well be a market there.
I don't hate the concept, but I do get the feeling when looking at these that headless feels more natural on a more modern/unorthodox body.
I don't hate the concept, but I do get the feeling when looking at these that headless feels more natural on a more modern/unorthodox body.
Agreed. I feel much more comfortable with my Kiesels where there is an actual piece of wood with a strap pin on it that sticks out past the tuners.
Agreed. For me it's mostly the overall size of the body relative to the size of the neck, which includes the headstock or lack thereof. More modern, slimmer, and in some cases more angular body shapes just look more appropriate with a headless neck than something like a P or a J body to my eyes.
- Jun 30, 2010
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I agree that tuners sticking out below the body is not a good design. This is my solution using individual barrel tuners - stands up straight leaning against an amp.
Jazzdogg
Less barking, more wagging!
How well does it work from an ergonomic point of view? Seems like making those tuners easy enough to turn would require far too many turns when replacing strings unless there's a version of a string winder that can work with them,
I don't have an issue with headless basses but that looks ridiculous to me - as if someone superimposed a design over an existing incompatible design. I also dislike it when the tuners on a headless protrude past the body like that (instead of there being a cutaway).
I'd love a lightweight no-neck dive jazz. I've had to retire my heavy jazz due to back and neck problems and would love to play one out again. Hope Sweetwater gets em soon!
