agreed its a penis thing you need a wall of speakers behind you not for your sound but just to look cool
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SIZE!!!! Does it matter?
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agreed its a penis thing you need a wall of speakers behind you not for your sound but just to look cool
Anyone who ignores the entertainment aspect of music will probably not do much with their career.
Yeah it is a penis thing; all the air movement caused by a large, low end emitting, well projecting rig usually gives me a satisfying semi while playing
it just does not sound as big man
have tried both set ups, and the bigger stuff moves me and my drummer much more
and gives an effortless nice big juicey bass sound, no tweaking around to try to make it sound big or killing amp head room by pushing lower frequencies to make up for less bass being reproduced by smaller physical dimensions IME
have tried both set ups, and the bigger stuff moves me and my drummer much more
and gives an effortless nice big juicey bass sound, no tweaking around to try to make it sound big or killing amp head room by pushing lower frequencies to make up for less bass being reproduced by smaller physical dimensions IME
That's true. In the big backline days I would set up a double SVT stack onstage: two heads and two cabs. I would only use one stack during the gig, but sometimes at rehearsal or before the gig I'd run all sixteen tens at once, just for fun. w00t!! What a huge sound.
The entertainment aspect always matters, and visual aesthetics are part of that aspect, whether it's a big-ass amp stack or a singlecut boutique with blingy top wood.
Alright...I'll admit it. I have a small penis.
But when your brother is a clydesdale, you'll do anything to help your chances!
But when your brother is a clydesdale, you'll do anything to help your chances!
if you play your bas real loud , it will destroy parts of the soundstage........some freq´s will be lost, some louder....to be said very very simple....so as a bassplayer you CAN destroy your band´s sound! ( when played with PA )
Ya know, you're actually right. But either it's a really super crappy stage or you're pushing thousands of decibels...
Human ears bleed at 150.
The only question I have about this is: how is it any different to have enough volume for the mix coming from my amp, or the FOH? I never understood that.
The Berg IP112 is all I need. Loudest rig I've ever owned. People are amazed at how loud something so small can be
sure but for me loudness is not everything, depth and size of sound is what bugged me so long about my small rig.
I had one of the loudest compact systems on the market but the sound field was not big enough for what I wanted to do, also I had to push so much bass frequencies due to the size of the small cabinet
in the end the solution was a cabinet 3 times the size and weight
now its plug and play
A Bass amp/cab/preamp will always add a colour to a bass.
So , if you want audience to hear that colour , you place a mic.
If you want the audience to hear your bass , a DI is a lot better since it won't colour your *real* sound.
Hope that explanation clears it up.
It's not only the bass tone but the whole band mix/tone.
I learned not to interfere with FOH sound. It's not my job. My job is to play bass. If I get a crappy FOH guy , the client who pays for both of us is not gonna put the crappy FOH sound on me.
I'm a "hifi" type , even if I don't use Hifi stuff. I'm from that school.
My rig is a TD100 and an RCF ART310A or Mackie SRM450.
I tried to find a rig that would reproduced as closely as possible what my DI'd sound through a Studio reference.
I ended up using active "PA type" boxes.
So I don't see me placing a mike in front of my RCF , that would be very silly and pointless.
Like if a singer would say to the FOH guy ," the sound I hear in my monitor , that's what I want to sound like" , and the FOH guy would put a mike in front of the wedge.......
To the OP ; Size , does it matter , ask any girl.......
PS ; if I read all the junk mail I receive every day , it does.
What ever the venue calls for.
Anywhere from a 1 15 Combo to a Bi-amped 12-10's.
I'm just looking for the right sound.
Anywhere from a 1 15 Combo to a Bi-amped 12-10's.
I'm just looking for the right sound.
You get junk mail telling you that you need to increase the size of your cabs???A Bass amp/cab/preamp will always add a colour to a bass.
So , if you want audience to hear that colour , you place a mic.
If you want the audience to hear your bass , a DI is a lot better since it won't colour your *real* sound.
Hope that explanation clears it up.
It's not only the bass tone but the whole band mix/tone.
I learned not to interfere with FOH sound. It's not my job. My job is to play bass. If I get a crappy FOH guy , the client who pays for both of us is not gonna put the crappy FOH sound on me.
I'm a "hifi" type , even if I don't use Hifi stuff. I'm from that school.
My rig is a TD100 and an RCF ART310A or Mackie SRM450.
I tried to find a rig that would reproduced as closely as possible what my DI'd sound through a Studio reference.
I ended up using active "PA type" boxes.
So I don't see me placing a mike in front of my RCF , that would be very silly and pointless.
Like if a singer would say to the FOH guy ," the sound I hear in my monitor , that's what I want to sound like" , and the FOH guy would put a mike in front of the wedge.......
To the OP ; Size , does it matter , ask any girl.......
PS ; if I read all the junk mail I receive every day , it does.
Anywho, I disagree that a DI doesn't color your sound. It won't always color your sound, but many of them do impart their own tonal thing to the sound. One of the favorite DI's of all, the Reddi, was designed to sound like a mic'ed B-15.
I also disagree about leaving FOH alone. The audience doesn't know from FOH. All they know is good sound and bad sound. I won't hesitate to get on the FOH guy to get the sound I want in the PA because if my sound is bad, the audience blames me and my band, not the FOH guy. There are some gigs I do where my band isn't in charge, so I'm not as picky on those gigs, but you should never let a FOH guy screw you if you can help it because it comes back on you.
If you're into the hi fi sound, a DI is the best way to go. But to think you're sending an uncolored signal when you use a DI isn't accurate.
I have been the FOH guy (Peppermill Hotel Casino). I'm not going to say "I'm great" or anything because I am not, but several times, when the FOH guy at our gigs isn't up to snuff I have been asked to mix the bands, then play, then mix more, lol. Most of the time many FOH guys are good to amazing, but every now and then you get someone who's just a little green.
We are fortunate that we have a guy here in Reno that we work with often that has been the FOH guy for Journey, Rush, etc. and we always get a great mix, when we play with "nationals" I'm not even going to mention "our sound" to him because I'm just generally picking his brain about "his sound" and his gear. But when we have "three tooth Willy" and his meth addicted "girl" (and sometimes this just happenes (mostly in small towns)) or a sound guy that is so busy drinking, smoking dope, or whatever mind altering substance hes doing, that's NEVER behind the board mixing, I will mention to him that I have experience and ask if he'd mind if I "gave it a whirl", 9 times outta 10, they say "well yell ya!!!". That's random gigs for you.
And I hate to be one who goes for aestetics but when your playing with say, Diecast or Drowning Pool, Soil, etc... it would look just a little funny having a 1X10, 1X12, or even a 2X12. FOH guy may make you sound amazing but it would look kinda funny.
We are fortunate that we have a guy here in Reno that we work with often that has been the FOH guy for Journey, Rush, etc. and we always get a great mix, when we play with "nationals" I'm not even going to mention "our sound" to him because I'm just generally picking his brain about "his sound" and his gear. But when we have "three tooth Willy" and his meth addicted "girl" (and sometimes this just happenes (mostly in small towns)) or a sound guy that is so busy drinking, smoking dope, or whatever mind altering substance hes doing, that's NEVER behind the board mixing, I will mention to him that I have experience and ask if he'd mind if I "gave it a whirl", 9 times outta 10, they say "well yell ya!!!". That's random gigs for you.
And I hate to be one who goes for aestetics but when your playing with say, Diecast or Drowning Pool, Soil, etc... it would look just a little funny having a 1X10, 1X12, or even a 2X12. FOH guy may make you sound amazing but it would look kinda funny.
