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Source for true "vintage" pickups

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by wwittman, Apr 20, 2006.

  1. wwittman


    Apr 21, 2004
    Westchester, NY
    anyone have a good dealer who specialises in sticking 'vintage' pickups?

    I'm on the lookout for a 1966 P Bass pickup, like from a slab P.

    also, I'm open to opinions as to what modern pickup you guys think is closest to that...
    not "best" to YOUR taste, just closest to that early CBS era pickup
  2. aquateen


    Apr 14, 2005
    Lindy Fralin will wind some for you as will others.
  3. bigtexashonk

    bigtexashonk Supporting Member

    If you find one let me know! One of those slab pickups is just the prescription for the John Entwistle sound!
  4. Moo

    Moo Banned

    Dec 14, 2002
    Oakland, CA
    What does term "slab" refer to in this case?

    EDIT: Slab rosewood fingerboard, now I remember...
  5. wwittman


    Apr 21, 2004
    Westchester, NY
    no, for a short time in the mid 60's, Fender made a P bass with a flat, non-contoured body like the earlier 1951 style, but with the new split P pickup and a maple neck.

    that's the "slab" Precision.
  6. Moo

    Moo Banned

    Dec 14, 2002
    Oakland, CA
    Never heard of it, thanks :)
  7. spc


    Apr 10, 2004
    South of Boston
  8. wwittman


    Apr 21, 2004
    Westchester, NY
    what makes you say the Lollar is like the early Post-CBS Fenders?
  9. steveb98

    steveb98 [acct disabled - multiple aliases]

    Mar 15, 2006
    Venice, CA
    I started playing bass in the 60's and owned a '65 Precision for over a decade. Most my friends played Precisions and I don't remember what you are talking about. There was what we called "Telecaster" basses which were the old '50's Precisions non-contour body and the single coil pickup with the string outer winding.
  10. wwittman


    Apr 21, 2004
    Westchester, NY
    Look at the posted picture of Entwistle with one.

    It has a flat slab, un-contoured body like a 51, full sized headstock (not a "telecaster"), split P pick-up, maple neck.
    3 pots, unlike most P's.

    Its pickup is PROBABLY the same as every other 1966 Precision...
  11. bigtexashonk

    bigtexashonk Supporting Member

    I'm sure Jason Lollar can make anything you desire.

    I do have one of his Ric repro horseshoes and the sound/build quality is second to none.
  12. wwittman


    Apr 21, 2004
    Westchester, NY
    He says, by email, that his p pickup is based on a 1962...
    I really don't know how to TELL him what i want, unless I can measure an existing Slab P...
  13. spc


    Apr 10, 2004
    South of Boston
    He's really good about answering questions, getting back to you, etc. I'd at least give the guy a call, try to put into words what it is you're looking for tone wise, I'd be shocked if he couldn't help...
  14. Are you looking for an actual vintage pickup, an original? I may know someone who might have one.
  15. tplyons


    Apr 6, 2003
    Madison, NJ
    I thought those "slab" models were for export to the UK and as a result are rather uncommon.
  16. wwittman


    Apr 21, 2004
    Westchester, NY
    Yes I know that the original Slab basses are vbery rare...but there's every reaosn to think that they had standard earlPOST-CBS pickups like every other 66 P bass.

    It's doubtful that Fender made special pickups for 20 or so basses, only.

    and yes i AM looking for the real thing.
    And I have a pretty good idea what it would look like (after looking at a real one)... so if anyone has a lead, please pass it along.
  17. X Wolf

    X Wolf Guest

    You might give Lindy Fralin a call.

  18. brachal


    Jan 7, 2006
    New Orleans, La
    According to Entwistle in his "Bass Culture" book, Fender made a very small run (I think 20) of the slab precisions described in this thread and sent them all to England. He claims to have destroyed at least 3 of that lot. The P-bass used on Live at Leeds (the Frankenstein Bass) was made from the neck and electronics of one of the slabs, with the other parts coming from 4 other P and J basses he had around. Says he cobbled it together himself in a hotel room while on tour.
    According to Entwistle, there was something different about the pickups and/or tone circuit in the slab precisions which gave them a distinct sound with a hint of distortion when the volume was turned up.
  19. johnp352


    Aug 19, 2005
    Endorsing Artist: Rick Turner, GK

    I've been on the same JE/Leeds/Tommy quest for a while..since 1972. I have a set of pu's in my alder body/maple neck P bass made by Bill Bartolini before he started "Bartolini"..they are called "Hi A" . According to Bill, they were made as a higher output version of "classic" P bass pu's..based on pre cbs pu's. That of course may or may NOT be what JE was using, as '66 was transitional, and the pu's might have been..who knows? (sorry) I have found that with fresh roto swing 66 ers, and my Hiwatt dr 200..it gets close to Leeds..but only at a certain volume..the push from the 'watt interacts with the bass, making it sound very different at different volumes. I also prefer the sound of el 34's though, and have been looking for a suitable 100 or sound city..or orange lately. The bass is light for an alder body, at least in comparison to the 100+ I've tried over the last 35 years.

    I haven't tried the SD "antiquity" , though lots of wags (not here btw) think they are the schnitz for this sound.

    An interesting thing about those slab body P's JE played..3 controls..so maybe an early preamp? I used to play with several of the Vox range..treble boosters, etc.and sometimes the right combination of that and the front end of a hiwatt would be very JE like. As was playing through the front end of a vox SS amp, driving a small el 84 tubed power amp. Lots of strange Bill Wyman tones from that as well.

    I have been following your posts re the slab body..and noticed that Fender has made a slab body p, albeit with a jazz pu added..to it's line of "artist" basses, the Frank Bello model. Not being from NYC, I have no idea who this might be, but the bass, a Japanese (I think) p ..looks like it could be a mule for a project. It's certainly cheap enough.

    Somewhere in the UK there's a JE slab with a preamp..or 2.

    en avant
  20. wwittman


    Apr 21, 2004
    Westchester, NY
    well fortunately I DO have access to the real thing, Slab P, for comparison.
    and I play regularly with a Hiwatt 100...and truth is my Status Series 2 comes close ot the Leeds sound... the Hiwatt has a lot to do with it.

    but I'm now playing around with a Dirnt bass that Fender was nice enough to provide for me, and as it's already essentially a Slab with a P pickup (although with a rosewood fingerboard) I'm wondering about trying to steer it more Entwistle.

    it's, as original, much too tame for me.

    the original Slab P is defintely NOT active, by the way.

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