Speaker Replacement for Behringer BXL3000 Combo?

[willg95]

Yes I have the Behringer BXL3000 (Seen Here--[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]) and the fact that the speaker inside is only rated at 200 Watts while the amp is 300 Watts makes me a little nervous. Where can I find a 15 inch speaker of 300 Watts of power or more to put into it? Or will a subwoofer speaker work since that's essentially what it is?

TIA!

 

[::::BASSIST::::]

Try an Eminence Kappa Pro LF. Very heavy duty. I have one for sale if your interested.

However, if your amp is 300w while your speaker is 200w its fine. Its my understanding that the speaker should take 1.5 to 2 times amount of power its rated for.

 

[8mmOD]

Yes I have the Behringer BXL3000 (Seen Here--[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]) and the fact that the speaker inside is only rated at 200 Watts while the amp is 300 Watts makes me a little nervous.

I'll give you the REALLY short answer... I wouldn't worry about it, it should be fine

 

[willg95]

thanks Veganbass, that's pefect, and I don't need to break the bank to get it either

Plus I get a lot of gigs and I turn it up to almost 80%. I just don't want to blow this speaker out like my previous Crate amp.


Also still wondering: would a 15'' subwoofer speaker work in it? I'm not going to do it since Veganbass already helped me there but just curious... I don't know much about amps. :-/

 

[jtc_hunter]

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great speaker w/o breaking the bank, another good choice would be a 4 ohm peavey scorpion or black widow. Your combo amp is supposedly rated 300 watts @4 ohm, the knight is an 8ohm, but would work just fine too.

 

[willg95]

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great speaker w/o breaking the bank

wow, even better. and thanks for showing me that site btw!

 

[seamonkey]

I'll give you the REALLY short answer... I wouldn't worry about it, it should be fine

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In fact, while it's under warranty, turn it up all the way and try to blow the speaker. They'll exchange the amp if it blows. They'd have a serious design problem if they didn't install a fitting driver for the amp.

The cabinet is too small for any real 15" speaker. It's a waste of money to try and improve it. And you'll probably void the warranty.

Save your money for PA gear.

 

[willg95]

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In fact, while it's under warranty, turn it up all the way and try to blow the speaker. They'll exchange the amp if it blows. They'd have a serious design problem if they didn't install a fitting driver for the amp.

The cabinet is too small for any real 15" speaker. It's a waste of money to try and improve it. And you'll probably void the warranty.

Save your money for PA gear.

yeah, I'd see if I could blow it out, but I've had this amp since March of 2006 and the warranty is only one year. I like the sound shaping and effects I can do on this one, I just want more headroom on it.

 

[seamonkey]

yeah, I'd see if I could blow it out, but I've had this amp since March of 2006 and the warranty is only one year. I like the sound shaping and effects I can do on this one, I just want more headroom on it.

Changing the speaker may not give you any more headroom, it may make it quieter - you don't know unless you can compare the specs of the current driver to what you'd replace it with. Like I said, the cabinet is too small to really get the most out of a 15"

Buy and external powered speaker and hook it up.

 

[willg95]

Changing the speaker may not give you any more headroom, it may make it quieter - you don't know unless you can compare the specs of the current driver to what you'd replace it with. Like I said, the cabinet is too small to really get the most out of a 15"

Buy and external powered speaker and hook it up.

how would it make it quieter???

 

[jtc_hunter]

I will venture to say that the 2 spkrs I suggested will be far better than the stock Behr spkr.

 

[willg95]

then it's settled, i'll be getting the one jtc_hunter suggested.

thanks a lot everybody

 

[seamonkey]

how would it make it quieter???

A few reasons. The speaker you have now is 4 ohms. Some of the mentioned replacements are 8 ohms.

Second, For every speaker, there's a collection of theil small parameters. Cabinet designers use this design the cabinets and ports. A good cabinet is designed to take advantage of these parameters. But in many cases, it's just the desired size of the end product that wins out. Like most combos, the Behr has undersized cabinets as consumers want small size over efficiency. In any case efficiency of the speaker is not related to it's wattage rating. Put in the same box a 300w speaker is not necessarily more efficient than a 200w speaker.

The replacement may not have as many mids or highs as the original. It's a bass driver. The mids and highs help you cut through.

I can bet Behr did everything they could to squeeze the most out of this combo. I doubt you'll be able to improve it.

On the other hand, the replacements may be better all around. You don't know unless you have the current theil small paramters for your current driver and model it with some software, like winisd, against a replacement.

Or just take the chance and change it. You could get lucky.

 

[willg95]

A few reasons. The speaker you have now is 4 ohms. Some of the mentioned replacements are 8 ohms.

Second, For every speaker, there's a collection of theil small parameters. Cabinet designers use this design the cabinets and ports. A good cabinet is designed to take advantage of these parameters. But in many cases, it's just the desired size of the end product that wins out. Like most combos, the Behr has undersized cabinets as consumers want small size over efficiency. In any case efficiency of the speaker is not related to it's wattage rating. Put in the same box a 300w speaker is not necessarily more efficient than a 200w speaker.

The replacement may not have as many mids or highs as the original. It's a bass driver. The mids and highs help you cut through.

I can bet Behr did everything they could to squeeze the most out of this combo. I doubt you'll be able to improve it.

On the other hand, the replacements may be better all around. You don't know unless you have the current theil small paramters for your current driver and model it with some software, like winisd, against a replacement.

Or just take the chance and change it. You could get lucky.

I see... well I don't plan on cheaping out on a replacement. Do appreciate the explanation though

 

[fenderhutz]

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great speaker w/o breaking the bank, another good choice would be a 4 ohm peavey scorpion or black widow. Your combo amp is supposedly rated 300 watts @4 ohm, the knight is an 8ohm, but would work just fine too.

Off topic but wow, these guys have leather wristbands in their scratch and dent section

EDIT: and studded belts.

 

[willg95]

Off topic but wow, these guys have leather wristbands in their scratch and dent section

EDIT: and studded belts.

wow, that was very random!

 

[8mmOD]

A few reasons. The speaker you have now is 4 ohms. Some of the mentioned replacements are 8 ohms.

Second, For every speaker, there's a collection of theil small parameters. Cabinet designers use this design the cabinets and ports. A good cabinet is designed to take advantage of these parameters. But in many cases, it's just the desired size of the end product that wins out. Like most combos, the Behr has undersized cabinets as consumers want small size over efficiency. In any case efficiency of the speaker is not related to it's wattage rating. Put in the same box a 300w speaker is not necessarily more efficient than a 200w speaker.

The replacement may not have as many mids or highs as the original. It's a bass driver. The mids and highs help you cut through.

I can bet Behr did everything they could to squeeze the most out of this combo. I doubt you'll be able to improve it.

On the other hand, the replacements may be better all around. You don't know unless you have the current theil small paramters for your current driver and model it with some software, like winisd, against a replacement.

Or just take the chance and change it. You could get lucky.

I'll give you another example... and I am recalling from memory so the numbers may not be exact. I own an Ampeg 12HE- a single 12" speaker cab. It doesnt matter how many watt speaker I put inside, the dimesions of the cabinet will limit the ouput to 250 watts.

You also are assuming that Behringers 300 watt rating of the amp is spot on. I am not a fan of Behringer, but I would at least expect that they would match the speaker & cab/amp, otherwise they would be flooded with people returning amps with blown speakers.

For the record, I changed out the speaker in my 12HE to an Eminence Delta 12LFA... essentially a beefier version of the OEM. It didnt make the cab louder, but the sound is more focused to me now.

So I'll just repeat "Or just take the chance and change it. You could get lucky"... oh and no... dont use a subwoofer

contact - www.eminence.com tell them you want to replace your speaker & would like some recommendations. measure the internal dimensions of your cab, include that in the email & be sure to tell them you are trying to get more volume from your amp without blowing the speaker.

 

[Johnny Vance]

Yes I have the Behringer BXL3000 (Seen Here--[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]) and the fact that the speaker inside is only rated at 200 Watts while the amp is 300 Watts makes me a little nervous. Where can I find a 15 inch speaker of 300 Watts of power or more to put into it? Or will a subwoofer speaker work since that's essentially what it is?

TIA!

WillG95, did you ever put a new speaker in that Behringer? I have one and looking to drop a Emminence CA154. Wanna know how it works.

 

[mmbongo]

WillG95, did you ever put a new speaker in that Behringer? I have one and looking to drop a Emminence CA154. Wanna know how it works.

WillG95 has been gone from here for about 5 years

 

[Johnny Vance]

WillG95 has been gone from here for about 5 years

Well pardon me. Thanks. Anyone have experience with the Legend CA154?