Stock fenders

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Iruleonbass, Jul 15, 2005.

Fender standards vrs. Wireless unit

Poll closed Jul 17, 2005.
  1. Wireless unit

    7 vote(s)
  2. Fender standard jazz

    68 vote(s)
  1. Iruleonbass


    May 29, 2005
    New York
    As you all might now, im getting my amp soon, monday Im hoping, and seeing as im going to be at GC, and that you can talk them down a little bit, I was maybe going to buy a new bass while I was there. Either bass or wireless unit, but lets focus on the bass for now.

    I saw a standard jazz bass that looked nice, i didn't have the time to play it, but all im wondering is if fenders standard series are good enough that you can use them for an all around bass, recording, on stage, etc...and use it for a few years. If I get this bass I wouldn't worry about dinging it or anything witch would be great, I just dont want it to fall apart a few years into me having it.

    And than I guess we'll have a poll between the wireless or the bass? The reason I want the bass, is becuase my ibanez is to big for me to use on stage. Weight and body, not lenth. And the sound I want is trebly mid range, punchy growly sound. Maybe I should get a P?
  2. Anti_Wish


    May 14, 2004
    Boston, Ma
    you can never have enough basses! i never use my wireless... it eats batteries like i eat sushi! thats a lot!
  3. get the jazz now, wireless later
  4. Iruleonbass


    May 29, 2005
    New York
    well the only reason Im considering to get a wireless unit, is becuase I always step on my cables and unplug them, when Im playing in my room. So it would be sad when it happens playing live.

    As for the bass thing, I've decided to go with a P-Bass, just becuase its my sound or whatever. Anyways, I just need to know that Fenders standard series wont fall apart.

    Im thinking of getting it in white, adding a black or tort pickguard, and seymore duncan quarter pounder, and possibly a badass II Bridge, but probably a no on the bridge.
  5. whoapower


    Jul 14, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Why not loop the cable around the strap?
  6. Yes, loop that cable, always! It's like a seatbelt for your guitar jack.

    As for the wireless, if your playing huge venues then definately get one. If your playing theater size and less, forget the wireless and add to your bass arsenal. Wireless units have their place, but it is one more thing to go wrong in the signal chain (and often is the FIRST to go wrong), and you can always pick one up later for a lot less than the bass will probably run you!

    Good luck!
  7. ras1983


    Dec 28, 2004
    Sydney, Australia
    Listen mate, i voted for the bass. you don't need to get a wireless system just so you can practice in your bedroom without stepping on the cables. i would actually recommend that you get yourself a seriously long cable so it can just hang down infront of your amp and you will absolutely never rip it out of its socket because of the slack.

    Like other TB'ers have already said; for a huge arena then maybe get a wireless system, but fir anything smaller; cables are a tried and tested method of delivery that has worked since the electric instrument was invented. :)

    Edit: i just understood that you were ripping the cable out of the bass. like everyone else said, just loop the cable around the strap.
  8. Iruleonbass


    May 29, 2005
    New York
    Well I wasn't planning on paying 500 dollars just to save me this little convo with myself....God dammit, I did it again...*plugs cable back in* and continues playing in my room. :p

    My band *might* be playing warped tour this year if we get a demo in soon enough, my friends have connections somehow or whatever so yeah. That and local gigs are all I'll be playing, but I still think im gonna get a wireless system. I want to get a rig, that I will never have to upgrade, even if I go "pro" or whatever.

    So I think I've settled on this....

    Ampeg SVT-CL/SVT 810
    Shure SLX Wireless Guitar
    Shure SLX Wireless Monitering System
    Fender P-Bass

    There will be more crap I need, but the main peices are those I think. So I hope to never have to buy anything else except for more bass's for fun. I do hope to get big enough that I'll need more amps, but I think that'll do me fine for where my band will end up.

    Im just so confused about everything right now...I had my whole configuration set up *aka the gas list you just read* And I read 15 chapters into angels and demons tonight, and for some reason...I dont know *** im thinking anymore, Like I know thats the "rig" I want, but I forsome reason, im not urging to have it. I dont know, I hate books now.
  9. Dirty Dave

    Dirty Dave

    Oct 17, 2004
    Boston, MA
    Sounds to me like you need the bass more than the wireless. Especially if it's not going to be comfortable on stage or have the sound you want. When you loop the cable through your strap as others suggested it shouldn't be a problem.

    I think I might have used my wireless twice since I bought it almost a year ago. Now it lives in my closet.
  10. Ian Perge

    Ian Perge Supporting Member

    May 11, 2001
    Evansville, Indiana
    Get the jazz now, wireless never. Unless you're willing to spend big bucks for a top-of-the-line unit (like the long lamented X-Wire) it'll suck your tone faster than a Boss pedal. ;)

    A secondary/backup bass, or one simply for a different sound is many times more useful than a wireless. Especially if you're planning to go on tour. Strings can break, stuff can happen, and at that moment seeing your backup ready to get plugged in around the strap will make you sure you made the right decision.
  11. crud19


    Sep 26, 2001
    Yes, another bass is the way to go. How many times have I seen a show come to a grinding halt when someone's wireless unit craps out? Ever seen Spinal Tap?

    Fender Standard basses are alright, but you can definitely get one that sounds terrible. If there is more than one available in the store, play them all to see which one feels/sounds the best. I would also recommend immediately replacing the stock pickups, which are entirely too hot and don't sound that great. Scarred2112 is exactly right in his assertion that you can never have too much backup gear on tour. Everything will break, eventually. It's the difference between you scrambling around like a maniac trying to borrow someone's bass when yours dies, or simply reaching for another one (with which you're already familiar, by the way) and continuing with the show.
  12. AcousticBass


    May 28, 2005
    i wonder whos the 6 people that didnt vote for standard fender jazz?
  13. tplyons


    Apr 6, 2003
    Madison, NJ
    I've used wireless for years for rehersing in small spaces, just walking around I got tangled on everyone's cord. Believe me, they're more trouble than they're worth and suck more tone than you'd believe (at least the cheap ones) and frankly, people've been getting away without wireless systems for thousands of years (maybe 75 or so in the electric world) so don't think a good cord wrapped around the strap won't do it for you.
  14. Eilif

    Eilif Supporting Member

    Oct 1, 2001
    Get the bass. A standard fender p is a great instrument to add to your rack,and I can tell you from experience that dropping a semour duncan quarter pounder in it is definately 60 bucks well spent. Basses do not do well with cheap wirelesses and as a former GC employee, I can tell you that if you must have a wireless for your bass the slx is not a bad choice, but you would be much better off with a sennheiser system. They don't cost much more, and they are super sturdy and reliable.
  15. Iruleonbass


    May 29, 2005
    New York
    Well the only reason im picking the shure, is becuase it got the best reviews, but im not possitive im buying it becuase I haven't tried it. And with shure's gear, its so versital, you can buy diffrent cables that will attach into microphones. So if I ever need to go wireless with anything else, I would just buy another cable.

    So I do plan on buying a P-Bass if I have the money, the only reason I think im gonna hold off with it, is becuase its gonna be a pain in the ass, to have them install the pickups, the new pickguard (I know I dont need that, but I want it) And all that crap, maybe they wont even have it white. And im already going to cuase a big enough scean (Completley......killed...that word) Have to have 2 or 3 of there staff make an attempt at moving an 810 and the 90 pound CL. So I think I'll wait off and buy something else useful with my money.

    300 bucks, any idea's? Oh yeah, bass/guitar related. I play a little guitar to, so maybe an acoustic?
  16. tplyons


    Apr 6, 2003
    Madison, NJ
    Maybe paying someone to fill out your profile so we know more about you... ;)
  17. Snarf


    Jan 23, 2005
    New York, NY
    Hmm . . . am I the only one who likes his MIM Fenders all stock? . . .
  18. tplyons


    Apr 6, 2003
    Madison, NJ
    I did, until I modded it ;)
  19. timmarks

    timmarks Supporting Member

    Jan 26, 2005
    Nashville, TN
    Endorsing Artist: Lakland, D'Addario, Mesa
    you won't need a wireless--
    As for the bass, in the price range, a used Made in Japan reissue
    P (either 57 or 62 reissue) is great. I think they are better basses than the average MIM for a little more money.
  20. BWil


    May 16, 2005
    SoCal USA
    I HATE batteries.

    Get a good long cable & watch where yer goin'! ;^)