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Tapping problems...

So I'm having trouble tapping on my bass. It seems when I try to play a note by tapping, two notes sound and it sounds horrible. I'm not sure if this is the correct topic for this query, but does anyone know how to fix it? I'm kind of a noob when it comes to resolving problems on my instrument. Any tips for a newbie? Please be patient :D
 
Be sure you're muting the low end side of the strings while you tap. Have you ever noticed how a lot of guys who tap usually have a hair scrunchy around the nut of their bass? It's used to dampen the strings so that you don't get those weird overtones that you're experiencing. They'll usually slide it down around the 3-5 fret when they're tapping.
 
jmattbassplaya said:
Be sure you're muting the low end side of the strings while you tap. Have you ever noticed how a lot of guys who tap usually have a hair scrunchy around the nut of their bass? It's used to dampen the strings so that you don't get those weird overtones that you're experiencing. They'll usually slide it down around the 3-5 fret when they're tapping.

Ahh.... That makes sense. My friend said something about raising the action, but nothing really changed. But that solves it. Cheers man !! ;)
 
Have you tried plugging in to your amp?

I've never had any use for a scrunchie and I probably use tapping more than any other bassist I personally know.

Raising the action is probably not what you want to do... low facilitates it all a little more, IMO.
 
chaosMK said:
Have you tried plugging in to your amp?

I've never had any use for a scrunchie and I probably use tapping more than any other bassist I personally know.

Raising the action is probably not what you want to do... low facilitates it all a little more, IMO.

Yes, I have used an amp. To be honest, the bass I'm using isn't a very high standard.
So lowering the action will help? Hmm.... Ok thanks dude :)
 
3 things:
1. Just plug in, I never really hear those overtones when I am, only acoustic.

2. Lowering the action will do nothing to you problem. Might make it easier to play.

3. The scrunchy is good, but ime, its more for muting open strings while tapping, not for removing non-existant overtones when your plugged in, and I honestly like having my open strings available.
 
ShredderMaximus said:
3 things:
1. Just plug in, I never really hear those overtones when I am, only acoustic.

2. Lowering the action will do nothing to you problem. Might make it easier to play.

3. The scrunchy is good, but ime, its more for muting open strings while tapping, not for removing non-existant overtones when your plugged in, and I honestly like having my open strings available.

Really? The overtones always seem to be there through my amp, but muting seems to have fixed it. I use a wristband and it's easy to slide it quickly up to the nut so the opens are not muted. But tapping on my squier jazz isn't a problem through an amp, I don't even need the mute for it, it's just my yamaha...
 
Really? The overtones always seem to be there through my amp, but muting seems to have fixed it. I use a wristband and it's easy to slide it quickly up to the nut so the opens are not muted. But tapping on my squier jazz isn't a problem through an amp, I don't even need the mute for it, it's just my yamaha...

Hi there, I hope I can help, I've been tapping instruments since I was born, and got to embrace some good practices that may help you:
- Low action definitively helps, not just because it will make your play easier and the whole movement more effective, but also because it will reduce the overall noise created by the action of your "tapping hand" on the strings. When you tap, both sides of the string resonate, one going to the neck and the other going to the bridge. By plugging into your amp, you overcome the "finger to neck" sound, but it is always there. If you have lower action, the string resonates less (and you need less energy to tap the note), so less noise will give you a clearer sound.
- the rubber band in the neck is, to say it gently, a temporary solution (not very elegant) that will bring you problems later. Tapping is just 1 technique among others you may want to use while playing, and given a particular tune, you may want to combine tapping / slapping / muting / chords, whatever. Putting a device in your bass that supports one thing but disables others may be very limiting.
- When tapping on a bass, beyond the advice you have received already, I can recommend that you use your (if you are right handed) left hand's index finger as a capo to lower the strings around the section you want to tap, sort of temporarily lowering the action to the lowest, and use the rest of your available fingers to play. That finger should also be your main muting device.
- On your tapping hand, don't be scared of using all your 4 fingers to reach across the fretboard more easily. The pinkie will be a pain at first, but after a while you will see that it helps a lot. Try always to play as vertically to the strings as you can with the tip of your fingers.
- Heavy strings may give you more sustain, but they require a lot of energy to tap on. I would suggest light, new strings to get the most out of your sound.
- So you get some progress from the get go, if your Yamaha has some equalization capabilities, put all the bass/mids to the max and reduce the treble to the minimum. Bring the balance between pickups to 50/50. This sound will not be the way you want to sound, but may clearly show any muting problems you need to address. Once you feel your are ready, bring all the eq to their neutral position and put the treble to the max. That will help you find any non-desired harmonics you are creating and thus allow you to correct your technique faster.
- Move around, don't stay with your hand just between frets 9 and 15.

Hope it helps. Cheers
 
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thewildest said:
Hi there, I hope I can help, I've been tapping instruments since I was born, and got to embrace some good practices that may help you:
- Low action definitively helps, not just because it will make your play easier and the whole movement more effective, but also because it will reduce the overall noise created by the action of your "tapping hand" on the strings. When you tap, both sides of the string resonate, one going to the neck and the other going to the bridge. By plugging into your amp, you overcome the "finger to neck" sound, but it is always there. If you have lower action, the string resonates less (and you need less energy to tap the note), so less noise will give you a clearer sound.
- the rubber band in the neck is, to say it gently, a temporary solution (not very elegant) that will bring you problems later. Tapping is just 1 technique among others you may want to use while playing, and given a particular tune, you may want to combine tapping / slapping / muting / chords, whatever. Putting a device in your bass that supports one thing but disables others may be very limiting.
- When tapping on a bass, beyond the advice you have received already, I can recommend that you use your (if you are right handed) left hand's index finger as a capo to lower the strings around the section you want to tap, sort of temporarily lowering the action to the lowest, and use the rest of your available fingers to play. That finger should also be your main muting device.
- On your tapping hand, don't be scared of using all your 4 fingers to reach across the fretboard more easily. The pinkie will be a pain at first, but after a while you will see that it helps a lot. Try always to play as vertically to the strings as you can with the tip of your fingers.
- Heavy strings may give you more sustain, but they require a lot of energy to tap on. I would suggest light, new strings to get the most out of your sound.
- So you get some progress from the get go, if your Yamaha has some equalization capabilities, put all the bass/mids to the max and reduce the treble to the minimum. Bring the balance between pickups to 50/50. This sound will not be the way you want to sound, but may clearly show any muting problems you need to address. Once you feel your are ready, bring all the eq to their neutral position and put the treble to the max. That will help you find any non-desired harmonics you are creating and thus allow you to correct your technique faster.
- Move around, don't stay with your hand just between frets 9 and 15.

Hope it helps. Cheers

+1 thanks man, that's fantastic !! :D
To tell you the truth, my bass teacher saw the wristband on the neck, laughed and then told me I was an idiot... :(
I have always been into more metal and rock, but I've recently stumbled upon the likes of Jaco Pastorius, Marcus Miller and Victor Wooten. Wooten in particular has blown my mind, with his classical thump. I've never really understood why anyone wanted to tap on a bass until listening to him play. Mind-blowing .
FYI I had a practical exam today in music and played Jaco's blackbird... The examiner was like :O
:hyper: :bassist:
 

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