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THE HOLOCAUST : 20 Photos

I highly recommend reading this book...
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Some cool pics though I don't see how they "change the narrative."

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Most of them were taken post-liberation. I would expect those who had the strength to be smiling and celebrating in their own cultural way.

I'm always heartened by people who can rise above adversity, but those pictures do precious little to wipe the images and truth from my mind of how incredibly humiliated and abused Jews were at the hands of the Nazi regime.
 
Yes the story does need to be told. The US does a poor job teaching this event and the many others like it.

Really?

I was reading my step-son's AP US history book the other day and I was amazed to find out that white anglo saxon protestants had very little to do with American history. In fact, in the chapter about WWII, one you removed the sections on the holocost, the Japanses internments, the wartime contributions of african americans, hispanics, and native americans, there was little left said about the war itself. To me, it seems like a clear "we'll make it up to them now" after years of glossing over significant events and sacrifices. Which I do regard as "poor job", but on the other end of the spectrum....
 
thanks for posting the link. The photos add a new layer to remembering the Holocaust and the stories of the survivors after their release. Just as striking as the photos of the hiden cellebrations that occurred, as well as the ones that were doccumeted for propganda, visual artists found ways to express themselves in the camps by any means necessary. The images of these artworks I have seen are powerful in their own right.

Some can be seen here:
http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/arts/ARTVICTI.HTM
 
thanks for posting the link. The photos add a new layer to remembering the Holocaust and the stories of the survivors after their release. Just as striking as the photos of the hiden cellebrations that occurred, as well as the ones that were doccumeted for propganda, visual artists found ways to express themselves in the camps by any means necessary. The images of these artworks I have seen are powerful in their own right.

Some can be seen here:
http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/arts/ARTVICTI.HTM

First generation American here, direct descendant of a decimated family tree.
I can never forget my grandfather and his stories of horror and how he was made to watch his brother die by gunshot to the back of the head.
 
^ A family friend, through my paternal grandfather, who was an artist was a German citizen who was sent to a prison camp in France because he would not betray his jewish wife. He created a woodcut print series that was devoted to his experiences there. My grandfather told me that while he was in the camps he created draft versions of these woodcuts using whatever materials he could find. My grandfather owned several of these woodcuts and I was exposed to these images during visits to his home. While the prisoners in these camps were not slated for death, their daily existence, based on the content of the prints reveals that life was not easy. Many of them are powerful and show the daily life in these camps. These prints have been indelibly burnt into my memory. I now own three of them. I marvel at how this man turned this traumatic period of his life into a triumph.

While my family escaped Germany and the Ukraine before the outbreak of WWII in many ways this series of woodcuts helped educate me about the horrors of the Holocaust
 
Yes the story does need to be told. The US does a poor job teaching this event and the many others like it.

On top of that, there are still a number of peole who honestly believe in their hearts that it never happened. :rollno: Not that that is a failure of the U.S. education system, but it still blows me away that people think the Holocaust was just something that was made up. From what I understand, Holocaust Denial is actually illegal in certain parts of Europe.
 
On top of that, there are still a number of peole who honestly believe in their hearts that it never happened. :rollno: Not that that is a failure of the U.S. education system, but it still blows me away that people think the Holocaust was just something that was made up. From what I understand, Holocaust Denial is actually illegal in certain parts of Europe.

I don't think many people actually believe in their hearts that it didn't happen. They just say that to express their hatred of Jews.
 
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/10/world-war-ii-the-holocaust/100170/


Yes the story does need to be told. The US does a poor job teaching this event and the many others like it.

that may be true to some.

My son has been talking about it as they are learning about it in 7th grade

Lets not forget America (USA) was one of many countries who put a stop to it. I think a lot of people would just as soon forget than remember an event as horrific as it was . It should never be forgotten .


My ex wife's grandfather never went to church ... His family was bothered by this for many years .

One day when I was fishing with him he told me about some of his WWII experiences . One was walking into a concentration camp . I won't go into details but he said he lost his faith that day .

"If there is a god how could he allow that to happen". Is what he said to me.
 
I don't think many people actually believe in their hearts that it didn't happen. They just say that to express their hatred of Jews.

While that may be true for some, there are some people who think that there is "evidence" suggesting that the Holocaust didn't happen or that the numbers were greatly fudged to be sympathetic towards the Jews; albeit, these people are anti-Semitic. Granted, I'm not an expert on Holocaust Denialism.
 
While that may be true for some, there are some people who think that there is "evidence" suggesting that the Holocaust didn't happen or that the numbers were greatly fudged to be sympathetic towards the Jews; albeit, these people are anti-Semitic. Granted, I'm not an expert on Holocaust Denialism.

There are some who present very convincing arguments, based on physics and logistics. There might be some validity to the arguments, as even the Polish government revised the figure on the Auschwitz memorial plaque down from as high as 4 million to 1.3 million. That's still mass murder on a monstrously large scale. I've actually seen a documentary (oh the things one finds on YouTube) that argues that the 800K claimed at Treblinka would have been impossible, based upon the physics of burying and burning human bodies, the amount of wood fuel that would have been required, and the fact that survivors and witnesses described concealment fencing to have contained dried branches, which would have likely caught fire, in moderate wind conditions. There is thus, in my estimation, some validity to the argument that the figures may have been inflated. There are even those within the German government who assert this, and that the inflation was for the purpose of generating sympathy and extracting greater reparations.

Outright denial of the Shoah flies in the face of overwhelming evidence, but there are noticeable contradictions found in official documentation, both German and non-German, to provide sufficient fodder for debate.

I am by no means one to deny the horrible genocide, but I am one to encourage independent research, if the subject interests you.

Thanks to the OP for posting this thread. The pure joy on the faces makes it worthwhile. L'chaim!