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THE JOHN ENTWISTLE BASS BOOK
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some of those are available from geetar rag back issues,but i doubt i'd pay that even then.......too many good tracks missing for that kind of dough
5:15 was in bp a while back,pinball wiz,summertime blues, are out there too......great songs yeah,but 46 bux u.s. ??????? i saw an elvis costello e zine a while ago with all the my aim is true/this tears model for 10 bux for the downloadWont Get Fooled, Real Me and 5:15 would leave busy for a while.
Hi guys,
I wrote this book and can confirm that it is indeed very accurate! Incidentally, there are two versions of The Real Me in there, so loads to keep you busy - certainly kept me busy transcribing them!
You can also get the book from www.basslinepublishing.com, but not sure if that's any cheaper when you factor in the shipping to the US.
Hope that helps,
Stuart
Hi everyone
I don't have this one. But I do have Stuart's Bernard Edward book - and it's excellent (and I heartily recommend it).
What you need to factor into your thinking is not what the price is, but what VALUE you get from it. So if there are a few songs that you want to learn that John Entwistle played - you can either pay the £20 plus postage that Stuart charges and learn them from an accurate source.
Or you can try and learn them for free either using your ears or inaccurate tabs - and whilst that might be 'free' in the sense that you spend no money, you need to factor in the 'cost' of your time.
So don't think PRICE. Think Value. Once you start thinking like this it becomes a no brainer (unless you have SO much free time that you cam afford to spend 'hours' and hours).
Hope THAT helps.
Paul
PS - plus Stuart is one of the good guys.
I don't have this one. But I do have Stuart's Bernard Edward book - and it's excellent (and I heartily recommend it).
What you need to factor into your thinking is not what the price is, but what VALUE you get from it. So if there are a few songs that you want to learn that John Entwistle played - you can either pay the £20 plus postage that Stuart charges and learn them from an accurate source.
Or you can try and learn them for free either using your ears or inaccurate tabs - and whilst that might be 'free' in the sense that you spend no money, you need to factor in the 'cost' of your time.
So don't think PRICE. Think Value. Once you start thinking like this it becomes a no brainer (unless you have SO much free time that you cam afford to spend 'hours' and hours).
Hope THAT helps.
Paul
PS - plus Stuart is one of the good guys.
i am thinking value...i don't doubt for a minute that stuart is one of the good ones,but with limited resources choices must be made..the cost of the dots for a single part cost more than each of my books of hendrix which include the complete drum and guitar parts...i don't doubt that is good and a valuable resource but at that price i gotta balk........you really cannot factor in the time as practice is something you would spend time on anyway
Some of us don't take "hours and hours" to learn a song by ear. I know 37 Who basslines and it takes me an average of maybe an hour to get an Entwistle song down for notes and rhythym, and when I watch a live video of his playing, I can pick up all the small intricacies of his playing it.
And there are a million videos online and on DVD of John playing and it's not that hard to see what he's doing alot of the time.
I take your point.
But there are a ton of guys out there who won't be able to work out The Ox's basslines in an hour or so. Or 5 hours. Or 10 hours. That being the case if you really want to learn a ton of Who lines then 30 or 40 bucks is still good value.
For the record I believe that if you have the ability to transcribe something that you'll learn so much more from the experience of doing it yourself than following someone else's transcription that it becomes a no brainer NOT to do it that way.
We all have to allocate resources and make appropriate choices. And only you can make that choice for yourself.
I didn't understand the part about the Hendrix books though, as I did a quick check and those books cost $20 to 30 dollars each?
about 27 cdn or 22-24 us each when i bought them ......but they contain fewer songs,but you get all the parts......electric ladyland was slightly more as its a double album and the jamerson book with cd's was under 30 last time i looked......i'm just wondering why entwhistles lines seem to be so much more....i've got a lot of those kinds of books here and that one is 10-15 bucks us more than any of them
Publishing rights for The Who songs probably simply cost more.
And I'd like to say I wasn't knocking transcription books - we all have our own way of learning material. There have certainly been times where I wish I had a particular bassline written out in front of me. At least Entwistle's stuff was, for the most part, based on the minor pentatonic. Once you know that scale up and down the fretboard, which is certainly worth your while to take the time to get that skill, everything becomes much simpler.
I think the reason it's more expensive is to do with the fact that Stuart is his own publisher. And he's based here in the UK. So over here the book is around £20 (which is roughly $28-29), which is comparitive to other books. SITSOM is £28 from Amazon.co.uk for example.
And i think the reason it's so expensive from bassbooks.com is that they have to 'import' it from the UK, pay shipping, maybe some import taxes,etc etc.
I think Stuart suggested that it might be cheaper if you order it direct from his website.
Paul has pretty much hit the nail on the head here. The book costs £20 in the UK - this price is reflective of the printing and licensing costs involved with creating the book. Time spent transcribing and working on the books is not factored into the price.
The intention of my company, Bassline Publishing is to publish books that the larger publishers don't want to do. I have written books for two big publishers in the past, and when it comes to transcription books, unless it's a current and very popular artist, they don't want to know. Sadly, this means that the work of many great bass players goes unpublished, at least in sheet music form. This is why all the titles on the site are transcriptions of artists that haven't been transcribed by the larger publishers. It's unthinkable to me that there should be no transcription books for bassists as influential as Mark King, John Entwistle and Bernard Edwards - so I decided to rectify the situation personally.
£20 is reasonable for a transcription book in the UK, and bassbooks is presumably charging a bit more because they have to import them from me, pay for international shipping, import duty etc.
However, I am currently putting the finishing touches on a couple of new books that will retail for £14.99. These are the Brand New Heavies: Brother Sister Bass Transcriptions and The Mark King Bass Book. I will also be releasing some theory based titles (on things like scales and modes, and sight reading) that will sell for around £12.
Hope that info is of some help. Any questions about any of the books, please feel free to email me at [email protected]
Best,
Stuart
Hey Stuart
Remind us when the Brand New Heavies book is due? I know it's soon - looking forward to that one.
Paul
Remind us when the Brand New Heavies book is due? I know it's soon - looking forward to that one.
Paul
thannx for a refreshing, honest reply,and it will be on my list when time and money permit.....i wish you every success
