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The Real Reason Why Bands Play the Same Old Tired Covers

jive1

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The real reason why bands play the same old tired covers? Lazy musicians. Over the years, I have been surprised at how many musicians cannot put in the time to learn a tune. It could be that they don't have time, don't have the ability, don't want to learn one for whatever reason, think they can wing it, etc. But, in the end, they don't learn the tune, so we have to punt and do a tired-old cover instead because everyone already knows it.

There's lots of older, experienced musicians who still play the same stuff that they played decades ago and think that Bon Jovi is modern rock. There's guys who think they can wing it, and it can work until you get the bridge that follows a different chord progression. There's guys who think a song is just 3 chords, so they don't bother to learn the harmonies, dynamic changes, etc. because they think it's easy. Yes, it's easy, but you can still suck at it. There's players who don't even touch their instrument outside of a practice or gig. And I can go on and on about the various issues, but it still comes down to effort, and there's lots of musicians who won't put in the effort.

Luckily, in my current band through some lineup changes, we have folks who will actually learn a tune. What I've learned is that there's lots of covers that aren't being played that go over well. It's just that you need to spend a little time listening to the tune and learning it. And it's usually not a tune you learned in the garage 20 years ago. No-one specifically requests Brown Eyed Girl, Mustang Sally, Sweet Home Alabama, and lots of other tired covers from my band. Although we could do those tunes, none of them go over as well as the songs that lots of cover bands don't do that we do such as 'Impression That I Get' by the Bosstones or Reel Big Fish's version of 'Take On Me'.

And outside of my band, I've seen several examples too. Although 'American Girl' and 'Free Falling' by Tom Petty go over well, so does 'Running Down a Dream', 'Don't Do Me Like That', and 'The Waiting'. The way bands cover Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, Beatles, Skynyrd, and other iconic Classic Rock Bands, you'd think they only had 2-3 hit songs. But they actually had a bunch of them, but too many bands gravitate towards the 1-2 easiest songs they do. And even though Steely Dan had a bunch of radio hits, very few bands play their material because it takes some effort to learn. Actually, there's lots of hit songs that would go over well that are left on the table because people won't bother learning it.

Musicians put a lot of blame on the audiences, and sure they are part of the equation, but I don't buy it that it's the majority of the problem. The tired covers are like McDonalds, people eat there because it's convenient, cheap, and they know what to expect. But, it's rarely their favorite place to eat. I've heard plenty of musicians complain about apathetic audiences, but if you're being lazy and apathetic, they will pick up on that. Expecting audiences to be passionate about your apathy is pretty narcissistic and unrealistic, IMO. Although I've seen some non-tired covers clear a floor, I've seen so many of them work out well that I feel they are worthwhile doing. A song can be a hit, recognizable, and easy to dance to without being one that every band does.

In addition to lazy musicians, lazy and unimaginative promoters and booking agents contribute to the phenomena I call "same band, different name". Booking agents especially tend to be more conservative in their dealings and are loathe to take risks. For example, even though Modern Country has become mainstream and audiences are craving it, most booking agents will book another 80s-90s Rock cover band over a solid Country act.

Anyway, that's my rant.
 
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In my current band we went out of our way to do really cool songs from the 70s that just aren't typically done, because they are way more work-
songs like "I am your Captain" by Grand Funk, Green Eyed Lady, The Seeker, My Wife, Bridge of Sighs, etc... these songs aren't 3 chord masterpieces.

Some people dig it but most do not. Particularly younger generation types.
IMHO- it has to be a popular song to work, or maybe these types of songs only work in small doses intermingled with the typical suspects.
 
That's the main reason I left my old band. Call it ADHD on my part, but I just could not stay interested week after week if we weren't learning new songs. Every week at practice I would suggest that we learn 2-3 songs for the next practice but I would meet resistance because of the reasons that you mentioned above. Laziness. Specifically the lead and rhythm guitarists were too lazy to take the time to learn the songs. They were content playing the same 40-50 songs gig after gig. In the end I had to leave because I wasn't being challenged. I didn't even see the point in having practices anymore.

Time will tell if this new cover band that I'm in will be any different. So far it seems that everyone is willing to not only learn new songs, but learn different songs from what everyone else is playing out there. Plus the new band is an 80's cover band as opposed to a "Classic Rock" cover band so the material is all new to me by default.

Gotta keep it fresh!
 
I hear ya, but have a different slant. I can get paid to do the same old covers week in and week out ... it's what our audience(s) want. I make $100 every gig, and don't need to rehearse. Ka-ching! Or I could spend several hours a week learning, then another 4-6 rehearsing with the band, to play to the same audience(s), and make $100 every week. Easy choice for me. I can let my creative juices flow in the studio.
 
Don't underestimate an audience's wish to recognize a song and sing along. People out partying don't want to hear or dance to creative but unknown songs all night long. Boring as they may be, Mustang Sally and the like fills the floor with happy customers every time, and puts a smile on the bar owner's face. You can be artsy on your own time. ;)
 
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The real reason why bands play the same old tired covers? Lazy musicians. Over the years, I have been surprised at how many musicians cannot put in the time to learn a tune. It could be that they don't have time, don't have the ability, don't want to learn one for whatever reason, think they can wing it, etc. But, in the end, they don't learn the tune, so we have to punt and do a tired-old cover instead because everyone already knows it.

There's lots of older, experienced musicians who still play the same stuff that they played decades ago and think that Bon Jovi is modern rock. There's guys who think they can wing it, and it can work until you get the bridge that follows a different chord progression. There's guys who think a song is just 3 chords, so they don't bother to learn the harmonies, dynamic changes, etc. because they think it's easy. Yes, it's easy, but you can still suck at it. There's players who don't even touch their instrument outside of a practice or gig. And I can go on and on about the various issues, but it still comes down to effort, and there's lots of musicians who won't put in the effort.

Luckily, in my current band through some lineup changes, we have folks who will actually learn a tune. What I've learned is that there's lots of covers that aren't being played that go over well. It's just that you need to spend a little time listening to the tune and learning it. And it's usually not a tune you learned in the garage 20 years ago. No-one specifically requests Brown Eyed Girl, Mustang Sally, Sweet Home Alabama, and lots of other tired covers from my band. Although we could do those tunes, none of them go over as well as the songs that lots of cover bands don't do that we do such as 'Impression That I Get' by the Bosstones or Reel Big Fish's version of 'Take On Me'.

And outside of my band, I've seen several examples too. Although 'American Girl' and 'Free Falling' by Tom Petty go over well, so does 'Running Down a Dream', 'Don't Do Me Like That', and 'The Waiting'. The way bands cover Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, Beatles, Skynyrd, and other iconic Classic Rock Bands, you'd think they only had 2-3 hit songs. But they actually had a bunch of them, but too many bands gravitate towards the 1-2 easiest songs they do. And even though Steely Dan had a bunch of radio hits, very few bands play their material because it takes some effort to learn. Actually, there's lots of hit songs that would go over well that are left on the table because people won't bother learning it.

Musicians put a lot of blame on the audiences, and sure they are part of the equation, but I don't buy it that it's the majority of the problem. The tired covers are like McDonalds, people eat there because it's convenient, cheap, and they know what to expect. But, it's rarely their favorite place to eat. I've heard plenty of musicians complain about apathetic audiences, but if you're being lazy and apathetic, they will pick up on that. Expecting audiences to be passionate about your apathy is pretty narcissistic and unrealistic, IMO. Although I've seen some non-tired covers clear a floor, I've seen so many of them work out well that I feel they are worthwhile doing. A song can be a hit, recognizable, and easy to dance to without being one that every band does.

In addition to lazy musicians, lazy and unimaginative promoters and booking agents contribute to the phenomena I call "same band, different name". Booking agents especially tend to be more conservative in their dealings and are loathe to take risks. For example, even though Modern Country has become mainstream and audiences are craving it, most booking agents will book another 80s-90s Rock cover band over a solid Country act.

Anyway, that's my rant.

Good post. I love stumbling into a cover band doing unusual covers but it doesn't happen much. I think a band would play whatever they are sure the audience would come for, even if it means learnin more songs. The biggest, most paid cover bands around here play the same Ole same Ole for years... our tastes must be the minority otherwise I think they'd go deeper.
 
Not to start an originals vs. cover war with Jives thread but this is why I prefer originals. Covers are simply a way to play out, get gigs to make money...period. My creativity stops right there.
One reason I love music is to be able to create not to re-create old tired songs chicks and drunks like to dance to.

I can only play 3 steps and brown eyed girl so many times before I feel I'm doing it just to do it. Yes it gets gigs and money but the money has never be a big motivation for me. My last two good bands were originals with some covers that was creative and an outlet.
I have no issues with cover bands but never go see one no matter how good they are. For me to do covers there has to be an different angle like the band I'm in now where we play songs from the 40s ,surf, roaring 20s stuff most know but are not played out like dark town strutters ball.
Again this is my take and all the cover bands keep playing classic rock , 90s rock people do like it. I just need an outlet and originals fit the bill although original bands good ones are few and far between and are allot of work.
 
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Don't underestimate an audience's wish to recognize a song and sing along. People out partying don't want to hear or dance to creative but unknown songs all night long. Boring as they may be, Mustang Sally and the like fills the floor with happy customers every time, and puts a smile on the bar owner's face. You can be artsy on your own time. ;)

I don't think Jive was suggesting playing all unfamiliar "artsy" tunes, but rather choose different songs from the same genre. Skynyrd has more to play than Sweet Home Alabama and Gimme Three Steps. Songs that may surprise your audience.
 
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That's the reason why Paranoid and Crazy train are in my metal bands repertoire. Another lowest common denominator is Breaking the Law. I actually like playing Crazy Train, despite that, but Paranoid gets pretty lame after awhile. It's a tough line to straddle between cliche and recognizable. I like to lean towards recognizable so the crowd can sing the chorus, like Dio's We Rock. You never hear that song getting covered, but everyone recognizes it right away.
 
I don't play in cover bands, but I totally disagree with the mindset of "we play the same burned out songs every other cover band plays because that's what people like". By clinging to this mentality, you're selling an audience and yourself short.

I agree with the OP that a lot this is due to lazy musicians. There's an earlier post that basically says learning new songs takes too much time and the band won't get paid more by playing new material. That right there is a straight-up lazy mindset.
 
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Some "b" sides my classic rock band covers that aren't too cliche-
Ledo Shuffle, The Ocean, Lawyers Guns and Money, Those Shoes, I Just Want to Make Love to You... All songs that get regular AirPlay, but aren't covered all the time. Not really all the deep of tracks, but we still do Rocky Mountain Way, and All Right Now sometimes too. Those are "filler" for us. I just learned Stay With Me last week, because yes everyone knows it, but I don't hear it covered to death.
 
For several years I played in a band with some guys who knew every song ever recorded (or seemed to) and were fearless about playing obscure tunes from the 60s and 70s. We were playing venues where we could basically do whatever we wanted. We would frequently play "Stump the Band" with the audience, and we were rarely stumped. It was a blast.

Another (mostly) cover band I played with in Monterey worked 3-5 nights a week, week after week, with three superb singers. We never had the time or inclination to rehearse, so the leader would pick out 3-4 tunes every week for everyone to learn on their own and then we would just play them cold on stage the next week. By the third night we always had the new songs down cold.

So basically we're talking about 150-200 new tunes in the repertoire every year. Nobody ever got tired of seeing us.
 
Yes, it's easy, but you can still suck at it.

That should be posted on the door to every music practice room everywhere!

I've had the opposite problem: my originals band wanted to cover great songs that were obscure. I tried to explain to them that the audience has to have at least heard the song before or they will think it's one of our originals.
The key is to pick a recognizable song that everyone isn't sick of.
 
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