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The solution to cold hands/poor bloodflow/early stage artrithis.

H K

Jun 18, 2021
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Hello! This might be a little controversial, but I am going to talk about something that has been working for ME. If you havent tried it, don't dismiss it. Especially if you suffer from anything similar to what I do.

So for the last 3-4 years, my hands have been getting progressively worse (colder) during winter. It got to the point where I have been wearing electrically heated gloves, WHILE holding hand-warmers, and even that was not enough. I'd have to run my hands through warm water for 5-10 minutes after arriving at the studio, before I did my warm up exercises.
It has really become a hinderance to my playing.

I realize this is due to bloodflow, and a natural restriction of the veins and capillaries as I age. I quit smoking many years ago, but the fact that I ever did smoke, is likely also a contributing factor.
I do heavy workouts 4-6 days a week, and I'm in exceptional shape for my age.
I do sauna, hand exercises and much more.

But nothing has really helped, until now.

For the last few years I've been doing cold exposure/ice baths pretty regularily. I start my day with a coffee or two, then I jump in the shower and go full blast on cold for 2-3 minutes.
OR I get in a ice-tub I have in my yard, if I have a little more time.
Now this in itself has done nothing for my hands, but it's contributed alot to my overall health.

Recently I started reading and watching alot more on Wim Hof, AKA "The Iceman". A dutch meditation teacher who has set world records in cold exposure, ran a marathon in the snow, naked, and more.
His method for dealing with cold hands is straight up shoving them into ice and taking the pain for as long as you can.

It's UNBEARABLE. The pain intensifies (for me) for about 1 minute and 30 seconds, spreading from my hands to my whole body, and my brain is screaming to take my hand out. So much so that I have to use my other hand to hold it down. Literally fighting myself to stay in the pain.

But heres the kicker; after 1 min and 30s, the pain starts to pass, and when I pull my hand out at around the 2 minute mark (for now, I'm working my way up), a new kind of warmth fills it. From the inside.

It's hard to describe, but it's as if internal heating suddenly switches on and floods my hands. Its still icy cold on the outside, but the warmth comes from within, and eventually heats up the outside aswell. It feels so good in the joints, better than "outside" heat ever has.

There is alot of science behind this. Basically what happens is nerve and bloodflow shutdown, and re-activation when the body realizes internal organs are not being exposed to the cold, just the hands. The result is increased bloodflow, with oxygen and nutrients practically bursting through the veins in the hands. You also get a sizeable dopamine hit, which is the cherry on top. I know it all sounds very counter-intuitive, but basically what it does is force your veins and capillaries to open up more.

I've only been practising this for about a week now, but my hands feel much better in general. I have reduced inflamation, increased bloodflow, warmer hands - which again means greater agility and speed.

I was very upset about the progression of the coldness in my hands, fearing the absolute worst; that I might have to quit playing, or God forbid, start playing with a pick (kidding).
This has saved me, and I am eternally thankful to Wim Hof for introducing me to this method.

Please, if you are suffering from anything similar to what I have been going through, get a bucket, fill it with ice and cold water, and shove your hand in there for as long as you can. add 5-10 seconds every day. I guarantee you it will help. If it's too painful, start with just 30-40 seconds. When you pull out your hand, wipe off the water and shake it about a bit. This helps the bloodflow.

Just wanted to share this, if even just 1 of you tries this and it helps, it's worth the time it took to write this out.

Best wishes, HK.
 
i'm glad the op found a solution that works for him. modern medicine saved my life a few years ago, but i'm a big fan of alternative treatments that don't involve huge pharmaceutical corporations.

there are plenty of naturopathic doctors who can tell people how to do things like this safely. going to an appointment is not as easy as watching a video, but i know several people who have gotten bad advice from dr google.
 
I have neuropathy, idiopathic but I am diabetic, plus the arthritis you expect in a musician of my age.

Personally, I would definitely check as many legitimate sources as possible to make sure that what you're doing is not damaging to the nerves if done too often. Unfortunately, a lot is still unknown, and research resources are far more restricted than they were just a few years ago.

As far back as the 90s I had a friend who played guitar and banjo, and he took a small cooler of ice to dunk his hands in to every gig. It worked for him.
 
Hello! This might be a little controversial, but I am going to talk about something that has been working for ME. If you havent tried it, don't dismiss it. Especially if you suffer from anything similar to what I do.

So for the last 3-4 years, my hands have been getting progressively worse (colder) during winter. It got to the point where I have been wearing electrically heated gloves, WHILE holding hand-warmers, and even that was not enough. I'd have to run my hands through warm water for 5-10 minutes after arriving at the studio, before I did my warm up exercises.
It has really become a hinderance to my playing.

I realize this is due to bloodflow, and a natural restriction of the veins and capillaries as I age. I quit smoking many years ago, but the fact that I ever did smoke, is likely also a contributing factor.
I do heavy workouts 4-6 days a week, and I'm in exceptional shape for my age.
I do sauna, hand exercises and much more.

But nothing has really helped, until now.

For the last few years I've been doing cold exposure/ice baths pretty regularily. I start my day with a coffee or two, then I jump in the shower and go full blast on cold for 2-3 minutes.
OR I get in a ice-tub I have in my yard, if I have a little more time.
Now this in itself has done nothing for my hands, but it's contributed alot to my overall health.

Recently I started reading and watching alot more on Wim Hof, AKA "The Iceman". A dutch meditation teacher who has set world records in cold exposure, ran a marathon in the snow, naked, and more.
His method for dealing with cold hands is straight up shoving them into ice and taking the pain for as long as you can.

It's UNBEARABLE. The pain intensifies (for me) for about 1 minute and 30 seconds, spreading from my hands to my whole body, and my brain is screaming to take my hand out. So much so that I have to use my other hand to hold it down. Literally fighting myself to stay in the pain.

But heres the kicker; after 1 min and 30s, the pain starts to pass, and when I pull my hand out at around the 2 minute mark (for now, I'm working my way up), a new kind of warmth fills it. From the inside.

It's hard to describe, but it's as if internal heating suddenly switches on and floods my hands. Its still icy cold on the outside, but the warmth comes from within, and eventually heats up the outside aswell. It feels so good in the joints, better than "outside" heat ever has.

There is alot of science behind this. Basically what happens is nerve and bloodflow shutdown, and re-activation when the body realizes internal organs are not being exposed to the cold, just the hands. The result is increased bloodflow, with oxygen and nutrients practically bursting through the veins in the hands. You also get a sizeable dopamine hit, which is the cherry on top. I know it all sounds very counter-intuitive, but basically what it does is force your veins and capillaries to open up more.

I've only been practising this for about a week now, but my hands feel much better in general. I have reduced inflamation, increased bloodflow, warmer hands - which again means greater agility and speed.

I was very upset about the progression of the coldness in my hands, fearing the absolute worst; that I might have to quit playing, or God forbid, start playing with a pick (kidding).
This has saved me, and I am eternally thankful to Wim Hof for introducing me to this method.

Please, if you are suffering from anything similar to what I have been going through, get a bucket, fill it with ice and cold water, and shove your hand in there for as long as you can. add 5-10 seconds every day. I guarantee you it will help. If it's too painful, start with just 30-40 seconds. When you pull out your hand, wipe off the water and shake it about a bit. This helps the bloodflow.

Just wanted to share this, if even just 1 of you tries this and it helps, it's worth the time it took to write this out.

Best wishes, HK.
may i suggest spinning your arms like a (windmill) propeller. try one arm at a time. the centrifugal energy forces blood to your fingertips erasing any numbness or chilling. works almost immediately, ime.
 
Recently I started reading and watching alot more on Wim Hof, AKA "The Iceman". A dutch meditation teacher who has set world records in cold exposure, ran a marathon in the snow, naked, and more.
His method for dealing with cold hands is straight up shoving them into ice and taking the pain for as long as you can.

It's UNBEARABLE. The pain intensifies (for me) for about 1 minute and 30 seconds, spreading from my hands to my whole body, and my brain is screaming to take my hand out. So much so that I have to use my other hand to hold it down. Literally fighting myself to stay in the pain.
That reminds me of this:



Many Formula 1 drivers do the ice bath before a race, especially at races in the Middle East due the heat at those races.
 
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Problem I have is that these annoying, sometimes debilitating, niggles can be traced to more severe underlying issues which merit investigation & intervention.

Case-in-point: legs were aching...chalked it up to age & arthritis. Doctor told me I have the "kneesles".

Riis
"kneesles"? this might be a sign that you need to find another doctor...
 
i'm a big fan of alternative treatments that don't involve huge pharmaceutical corporations.

'Wim Hof' is also a multi-million corporation. There is a lot of controversy surrounding his person and his methods. For some people, like the OP, it works well, but for others it can be a cause of death (around 20 reported cases so far). Just heed caution with any extreme activity, you may not know what shocks your body can or can not absorb.
 
I've also been experiencing colder hands and stiffer joints as I'm headed into my mid 60s. I find the hot water in the bathroom sink before hitting the stage works spectacularly. A good bit of hot water, for 2 to 3 minutes, and it feels like I've been warming up for an hour. I'm assuming my condition isn't severe as yours, but yes, I have a marked difference versus when I was younger.
 
I've been dealing with arthritis, especially in my main thumb joint on both hands.
Also, have been getting cold hands. I simply work the thumbs through the painful stretches and bends to get them loose and more flexible.
I'm not concerned with cold hands. They warm up quite quickly.
Just for reference purposes I just turned 77.
 
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'Wim Hof' is also a multi-million corporation. There is a lot of controversy surrounding his person and his methods. For some people, like the OP, it works well, but for others it can be a cause of death (around 20 reported cases so far). Just heed caution with any extreme activity, you may not know what shocks your body can or can not absorb.
The deaths are people doing breathing exercises in pools.

All his stuff is yoga. Simplified for westerners. If people use it incorrectly, then thats on them.

Saying "you shouldnt do this because someone died from it" is like, well can you do ANYTHING then? People have died hanging curtains. Dont do it!
You can choke on food, DONT EAT!!

This is something that cures cold hands. It's not rocket science.
 

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