The Ultimate Multieffect

[moogboy]

sorry if this is already posted and i missed it in my search.
okay, how about a Multi that uses a system where instead of models and digital effects, you have modules that are all interchangeable without any hassel? heres how i think you would do it:
start by designing each module as if it were a single effect. then once you have a really good sounding unit, stick with it. the case would be setup so that you stick the module in and it connects to power, a footswitch and the audio all done without any cables to worry about.
finally, you would do a good wah and volume setup. the wah and volume would be two different pedals, and the wah would be designed like the other effects where you have different modules available, and it would be spring-loaded and have a hidden stomp switch like on a normal wah.

 

[superbassman2000]

check out the Eventide H8000FW, Eclipse or TC electronics Fireworx--those all can do stuff like that i believe...i know the fireworx does that for sure--where you can rout effects any way you want. control that with a behringer FCB1010 and you've got a pretty nice setup--very similar to what you speak of

 

[Taylor Livingston]

Totally, and for only 6 grand!

I think the ultimate multieffect would (as you say) be able to route effects in any order, as well as have multiple instances of effects with different feedback paths and modulation paths. This would be difficult to implement in a hardware unit, because of the complex interface necessary. That makes me think that something like Puredata is the ultimate multieffect.

 

[thejohnkim]

line6 had a concept of that on their website at one time, but i dont know if it was actually sold.

but they do have stereo and mono dock's and sell some of their tonecore effects as modules that you slip in and out. i guess the idea never really took off.

 

[moogboy]

what i am saying is similar to the tonedock system, but there would be virtually no cables at all,you would have the docks all hardwired to a unit, and then, you would take your fav tone modules,stick them in, and go to the gigs.
and you would have a setup where you can tell the unit if something is in a dock. and if its not, then that dock gets nothing sent to it. i would as well have a dedicated wah that is built on the board, but built like a normal wah. and never forget your volume pedal.

maybe as well put an external loop at each pedal, that way you could have effects that are not available in module form.

 

[superbassman2000]

moogboy go here--http://www.plogue.com/bidule

get a nice laptop, buy bidule, buy a nice computer/guitar interface and a midi footswitch and have this setup.

this sounds like exactly what you want to me...i have been working with Bidule for a while now, and it is seriously cool.

 

[Taylor Livingston]

Hey, tell us more about Bidule. I downloaded it but haven't had a chance to play with it yet. Does it include effects modules, or is it just a way of routing VSTs in complex ways? Can I use it without anything else to process audio?

 

[superbassman2000]

no, it just routes VST and AU...i think it comes with a few effects, but there are tons of free/cheap VST/AU at places like Invalid Link Removed

it is basically just a routing environment, but it does that extremely well at that and is very easy to use

 

[thejohnkim]

yeah i know what you mean, but i swear for a while line6, had a concept image of a multiple tonedock that had space for 5 modules on their webpage, but ican't find it anywhere anymore. there were some requests for it on their forums, and people submitted feedback requests for it, but after a while it was assumed that modules and docks were not selling well enough to expand the line.

 

[moogboy]

it can be done with normal tonedocks, and here is how:
start with many a piece of plywood.
then take the docks, hardwire them to each other.
spend everything you have on modules and commision several people to design more modules for you.
take it to a gig and have every bassist wondering how you changed effects so quickly.
finally, after the show, you PAR-TAY, for this day is to be the multieffect sabbath, on which all bassists come together and party for hours on end.

 

[343 Salty Beans]

Actually, a guy did something a lot like this DIY. He made a steel rack and made all the boxes the same size and they slid in and out. It wasn't cable-less, but rearranging FX was cake and it was very tidy.