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thinking about SVT-3PRO + SVT-410HLF... thoughts?

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kylestarr

Apr 14, 2009
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Hey guys,

I'm toying with the idea of picking up a SVT-3PRO + SVT-410HLF half stack. The band I have been playing in is a nice cross between Pedro the Lion and Death Cab for Cutie. Any thoughts on this setup would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Ps. I currently use a Fender Highway One Jazz Bass

EDIT: Here is a new question for ya'll. What do you think of the svt6-pro with the 410hlf? I have an opportunity for a great deal on one
 
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i've owned both, albeit at separate times. the hlf is HEAVY, but it's well worth it for the tone. tastes vary but it's the best cab i've ever played through. the 3 pro is a tasty amp, it lacks power in an 8 ohm cab but comes alive with a 4 ohm cab such as the 410hlf.

i currently use a 4 pro into an hlf and it loves my jazz bass. i say go for it, you won't be disappointed. :cool:
 
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That's a great combination. I have heard that rig time and time again by the same owner for over 8 years. That has to say something about the tone. Its the size of a 6x10, but just sounds very good. The head is very flexible and you can get lots of good tones out of it pretty quickly.
Wes
 
#11
RFord04 said:
These are a match made in heaven. Do it, that cabs not that heavy unless your a weakling... no offense guys.
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No offense taken. It has nothing to do with being strong or weak, but everything to do with the fact that there are lots of cabinets on the market that meet and exceed the output of the 410hlf and weigh much, much less. And 85 pounds is more than enough weight to severly hurt your back, especially at the end of a late night when your tired and ready to get home. IMHO.
 
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I've been using this exact rig for the past 2 years, gigging anywhere from 2 to 3 times a week. It's held up extremely well. It gives you enough power to play anywhere from the smallest gigs to large clubs and outside events. I've played mine with both Stingrays and Thumbs and it's a fantastic setup.
 
#14
Our bass player uses this exact same rig. I've used it for recording sessions and jamming and it sounds FN AWESOME! IMHO of course.

He plays a 90's Kubicki ExFactor and Czech Spector.
I play an 08 MIA Jazz and Stingray.

All of them sound super through it!

Yes it is heavy but I'm a 185lb weakling with a bad back! ;)
 
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Eublet said:
the fact that there are lots of cabinets on the market that meet and exceed the output of the 410hlf and weigh much, much less. And 85 pounds is more than enough weight to severely hurt your back, especially at the end of a late night when your tired and ready to get home. IMHO.
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I beg to differ about lots of cabs that meet and exceed the output.

I agree that most 410's weigh much less.

The speakers in the SVT-410HLF are some of the best 10" speakers to ever be built, have fantastic XMAX and reasonable sensitivity. The low frequency response is about as good as it gets for a 410 cab and there I feel it is unparalleled

My 410 moves MASSIVE amounts of air.

A person can hurt his back lifting 15 pounds for that matter so that's not even an argument.

What I will say is the HLF is a frustrating cab. It is an ODD height to be a tilt back cab. Compared to the 810 while the HLF is 60% of the weight it is more difficult to wheel do to its height.

The twin fold out handles make it easy to lift with two people though. They should put those handles on the 810 too.

I used to have a double bottomed VOX Foundation. The Foundation cab (18") was slightly different in size to the HLF. That thing took two people to move and when stacking took a guy on each side. If the HLF was easier to stack, I'd probably have 8 of them instead of 4 -810's in my stack.

BOB
 
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Eublet said:
there are lots of cabinets on the market that meet and exceed the output of the 410hlf
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Not too many 410 cabs can do more in the sub-100 Hz region. Maybe only the Acme, if the watts are there. So if one wants that, it's a winner.

Of course, if one wants prodigious sub-100 Hz output as part of their tone there are other lighter ways to get it.
 
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rbonner said:
I beg to differ about lots of cabs that meet and exceed the output.

I agree that most 410's weigh much less.

The speakers in the SVT-410HLF are some of the best 10" speakers to ever be built, have fantastic XMAX and reasonable sensitivity. The low frequency response is about as good as it gets for a 410 cab and there I feel it is unparalleled
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I guess it just depends on what you and I mean be "many". There are other cabinets out there that weigh less and have equal or greater output. I'm not dogging the 410HLF.

My 410 moves MASSIVE amounts of air.
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I'm sure it does, but most every 410 I've used does the same. Some more than others, and yes the 410HLF has a lot of low-end, to the point of being muddy compared to "many", but there are other 410's out there that do what it does in a lighter package.

A person can hurt his back lifting 15 pounds for that matter so that's not even an argument.
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With all due respect, yes,it is. Risk of injury goes up with weight. More than that though is that it just gets old having to lug around heavy equipment, so my advice was to make sure he checked out other options that could give equal performance in a lighter weight. Ultimately, he may or may not find such a cabinet.

What I will say is the HLF is a frustrating cab. It is an ODD height to be a tilt back cab. Compared to the 810 while the HLF is 60% of the weight it is more difficult to wheel do to its height.
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and it's a double-booger to carry by one's self. Odd shape, heavy weight. Just nothing "easy" about this cabinet at all. IMHO, someone would have to REALLY love it above everything else out there to go through all the trouble in moving it. I'm sure some are content with doing just that. More power to 'em! :D
 
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greenboy said:
Of course, if one wants prodigious sub-100 Hz output as part of their tone there are other lighter ways to get it.
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True that, and what can really be annoying about the 410HLF and other excessively deep 410's is that you're always stuck with that response, and it can really work against you if you use it in the wrong situations, versus something a moduluar approach where you have combinations that get the job done. A typical 210/115 stack can provide all the output and bottom end of the 410HFL, but you can also tote just the 210 to rehearsals, small gigs or boomy rooms where the 410HLF would be nothing but mud city.
 
#19
I've used this exact combination for three years now and love it!

I agree that the cabinet is a little awkward to move around although I'm 50 and still tossing it in the truck by myself at the end of gig...

The head also gets heavy when tossed in a rack with tuner and power conditioner.

Physical issues aside, these two units seem made for each other. The tonal variations offered by the SVT3Pro allow a wide range of tones out of the cabinet and the horn allows a good slap response when EQ'd correctly.
 

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