Don't see the flag, sounds like a pro who got fed up with people that can't play.
Which is a flag for me ,bands that want you to marry them with one band only BS.
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Time waster flags
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Don't see the flag, sounds like a pro who got fed up with people that can't play.
Which is a flag for me ,bands that want you to marry them with one band only BS.
To weed thru time wasters really is pretty easy. If you are looking for a professional band they will have a track record, gigs schedule, a website or press on them..somewhere. If they don't it could be a start up project from experienced players making up a band or second project. They should be able to provide the same iinformation from their past. If they can't do this? Move on.
lfmn16 said:
Not surprising, like the older Guy that shows up to audition with a much younger band.
40 pounds overweight, grey hair with a pony tail down his back wearing bib overalls.
Then he wonders why he never received a call back from the band.
Wasting time is when the BL says, "lets do this or this song" at rehearsal and then at the next rehearsal can't remember saying that.
I've worked up countless songs for nothing in my band. A lot of the time it isn't that hard, but sometimes I spend a lot of time and then we never play the song at the gig.
We have this huge song list but tend to play the same ones all the time. Wasted time.
I've worked up countless songs for nothing in my band. A lot of the time it isn't that hard, but sometimes I spend a lot of time and then we never play the song at the gig.
We have this huge song list but tend to play the same ones all the time. Wasted time.
That describes my last band pretty well. Always talking about playing out, talking about how awesome it would be if ____, talking about finding a singer, talking about cars, talking about politics, talking about anything...
Then BAM! "practice" was over for the night. Standing there for 2-3 hours with an instrument around your neck ready to go and not actually playing sucks.
+1
There could probably be a whole thread on this. I think there may have been already.
It's not just the time spend at the audition, but the time one spends, after signing on, spinning ones wheels waiting for the band to get on a roll (that just ain't gonna happen). THAT's the waste of time.
By keying into these phrases I can save myself (and the seeker) some time by not bothering to respond at all.
I learned to be wary of this after the first couple times it happened to me. Even though the bands sounded great, they were very dysfunctional and failed to fully deploy.
Then bands started getting wise and made it seem like they were deliberating for a few days when they probably weren't. There are just things you won't entirely be aware of until you're on the inside wondering if you didn't eff up.
1) They want to tell you about all the gear they had
2) They want to tell you about their 6 degrees of separation from the 4 replacement drummer in Molly Hatchet ( I am in Florida)
3) They will not play any material any other band is playing because it is "stale"
2) They want to tell you about their 6 degrees of separation from the 4 replacement drummer in Molly Hatchet ( I am in Florida)
3) They will not play any material any other band is playing because it is "stale"
I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. A band that alleges to be working and has no web presence: Perhaps they're feeding you a line of crap. But a band that is gig-ready except the final piece...sometimes, it's better to hold off on marketing materials until you truly ARE ready to gig. I've seen bands that have had a web presence and such who still didn't have all of the pieces together, some even for years.
Maybe others view it differently, but it always came off as lame and high schoolish to me. That's a bigger flag for me than a band who is ready to gig but hasn't created a Facebook as of yet.
In a perfect world, yes. However, we unfortunately don't always live in a perfect world. Unless you're part of a really exlcusive scene where everyone is "in-the-know," so to speak, you're gonna have to use criteria to screen wannabes - not that gear is always necessarily an indicator of someone being a wannabe.
It's like when an organization puts out a job ad asking for candidates to have a Master's degree and 2 years of experience. They're still going to get applications from people who dropped out of high school and have no experience, but they've still hopefully screened out a lot more of those people with their ad requirements.
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Had a singer, who after his marriage fell apart, started displaying these dormant neuroses that he kept hidden for the first few years in a band. One of them was alcoholism.
One night, after playing a benefit gig, he went down to a different club and proceeded to get hammered. He slammed into a semi on the way home and somehow walked away with a few scratches. If that doesn't change how alcohol fits into your life, then I don't know what will. He continued to drink, even after he got his license back. Long story short - he's no longer our singer and life is a lot better because of that.
In my last band, the bandleader would change The New Songs list about every 3 days via an incoherent email. Then Usually not play any of it at a gig.
I finally figured out the timewaste pattern, and I got into a mode of Faking It until I saw a song actually stick.
What a waste of time.
Seems like a general audition discussion.
Here's a tip.
Ask about their audition process:
How many guys are you auditioning
Where do vocals play into their decision making process.
When will you be making a decision
Ask if they are auditioning any friends of the existing members. If yes I personally would not audition.
If and when you audition, do a little sound check. Ask all the members if they can hear you and if your tone is good.
Here's a tip.
Ask about their audition process:
How many guys are you auditioning
Where do vocals play into their decision making process.
When will you be making a decision
Ask if they are auditioning any friends of the existing members. If yes I personally would not audition.
If and when you audition, do a little sound check. Ask all the members if they can hear you and if your tone is good.
A Practice Space Filled with Expensive, Pristine Gear that Appears to Have Never Left the Practice Space.
