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To Fret a Fretless or Not?

I'll be brief. I deemed it necessary to own a fretless for musical development. And, listening to the hype it had to be without lines.

Found the perfect one for a rock player like myself, the Tony Franklin fretless in black on black. Excellent fretless well thought out and constructed, pricey but worth it to me.

Now comes the quagmire, I suck really bad, I need the lines playing w/o them throws me off and I can't get a grove for my life.

So now, I am contemplating taking to a luthier to have vintage frets added or should I just chalk on some lines or just sell the darn thing to some with a better skill set than I posses?

Thanks in advance.
 
I'd try something non permanent, for say a month, and see if it helps you enough.

Maybe pick up a cheapie lined neck, for a trial run, and sell that on after you decide what to do?
 

Always an appropriate response. And, I do, but I don't have a lot of time to dedicate mostly, I just wanna play all with good music.

I'd try something non permanent, for say a month, and see if it helps you enough.

Maybe pick up a cheapie lined neck, for a trial run, and sell that on after you decide what to do?

I can't afford to spend any more right now and do love the feel and setup of the bass with the current neck.

Doesn't the bass have side dots where imaginary frets would be?

Yes it does. Which at times confuses me more. The way the neck is setup is exactly where the dots are is the fretting spot. But, on my fretted bass the sweet spot is just up from the side dot. So when I switch from fretted to fretless I get thrown off thinking about this adjustment in my head.

If you can understand that.
 
Always an appropriate response. And, I do, but I don't have a lot of time to dedicate mostly, I just wanna play all with good music.

Unfortunately, fretless just isn't something that you can pick up every once in a while and be good at it. It also takes a good deal of patience, persistence, and perhaps even more humility. I notice when I slack on my fretless playing, although much less evident when I slack in the fretted department.

I'd guess it's probably the most economical to trade for a fretted TF bass.
 
Seriously... if you just practice easy material using the side dots as reference you *will* not need lines. If you use lines you are more likely to pay attention to them while you are playing than something more pressing. The nice thing about side dots is, they give you 99% as much info, but only need to a quick glance to be confirmed.

I have played and owned both kinds of fretless, lined and un-. The unlined was always more natural for me because it forced to me to look ahead at the sheet music rather than waste time staring at my fingers. I'm not trying to be a snob about lined or not, I'm trying to promote *what's better for players*. This is not about looks, this is about how to get better at fretless, and one way is not to stare at your fingers. Your ears guide you better when your eyes aren't offering their opinion anyways.
 
Unfortunately, fretless just isn't something that you can pick up every once in a while and be good at it. It also takes a good deal of patience, persistence, and perhaps even more humility. I notice when I slack on my fretless playing, although much less evident when I slack in the fretted department.

I'd guess it's probably the most economical to trade for a fretted TF bass.

That would be best but until...
You could try some 1/16" pin stripe tape. It will last a lot longer than you think & it doesn't seem to change the tone . You can even get it in any color you want. It worked for me on the cello until I had it figured out.

I might give this a try
 
Always an appropriate response. And, I do, but I don't have a lot of time to dedicate mostly, I just wanna play all with good music.

I can't afford to spend any more right now and do love the feel and setup of the bass with the current neck.

Yes it does. Which at times confuses me more. The way the neck is setup is exactly where the dots are is the fretting spot. But, on my fretted bass the sweet spot is just up from the side dot. So when I switch from fretted to fretless I get thrown off thinking about this adjustment in my head.

If you can understand that.

Playing good music IS "practice". The problem is just getting to that point!

Fretless side dots are right where they belong. They are NOT confusing! You are just not used to them. Later if you get a fretless made from a defretted bass and the dots are like a fretted bass THAT will drive you nuts! Just dig in and get used to them!

I've been in the position of a blank plank fretless being too much for me. My Alembic 6 was like that. If I'd known then what I know now I'd have done what I'm going to say to you, but I didn't so I just bought another lined fretless bass to get started.

You are MUCH to worried about all this. Just put some relatively non-permanent lines on your fretless neck to get going. So long as it comes off with steel wool when you rub down the neck You'll be fine. Take my word for it, it goes like this:

1. At first you are used to frets, so the lines are a big help since you have to learn to improve your "fretting" accuracy. You have to finger right on the fret. Practice notes into a tuner to get a feel for what you need to do. And simultaneously listen carefully to train your ear. It takes some practice but not a HUGE amount.

2. Then what happens is that as you get used to stage one, you discover that you really can't be looking at the fingerboard all the time and so you start to rely on the side dots and your ears more and more. [remember what I said about side dots above?] You also should be listening hard to keep on with training your ear as well.

3. Finally you move into a comfort zone where the stripes on the fingerboard make no difference at all. So you can take them off at that point. A blank fretless always looks MUCH cooler than a lined one, so at that point you'll be so glad you didn't get rid of it! (or like me sorry you still own the one with lines)

4. A fretless does take more concentration. You can't just plop a finger down anywhere between the frets and get away with it. But the reward is that fretless sound which means you can put some expression into the music! And that's the payback.

Any instrument is going to take practice. You can't get around it. But practice doesn't have to dominate your life either. Especially since learning how to make something new speak is a lot of fun as well as work. If you can't practice as much then it just takes you longer to go through the above stages. No biggie. If you want wonderful fretless sound without any practice at all, then sell the bass and buy an MP3 player.