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Tone or Technique : most important for you?

Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by Clemouze, Jan 14, 2019 at 3:29 AM.


  1. Tone

    135 vote(s)
    50.2%
  2. Technique

    134 vote(s)
    49.8%
  1. Clemouze

    Clemouze

    Sep 1, 2016
    Paris - France
    Salut all

    Another silly poll, we all like them

    Most important factor for you, bass players : a GREAT TONE or an IMPRESSIVE TECHNIQUE ?

    We speak about what can make you like another bass player, or what you work the most, etc

    I know the tone is linked to technique and technique linked to tone , but be serious!

    Myself I appreciate better a player with super tone, than super technique.
    I am also more proud of my tone than my technique and put more effort into it.
    As an example :
    I prefer spending time and effort crafting a tone through pedals and researchs and way of playing than spending time learning how to noodle as super fast slapitislapito pop or horse run at 180 bpm


    And you ?

    EDIT :
    YES we all know that someone who plays super great in terms of skills can achieve a great tone.
    But I can tell you that a lot of people that plays with a good level can sound like s*** and can have a random tone that no one cares.


    For me , the tone option means : working your tone, choosing your gear ( pickups preamp pedals strings amp etc ) , searching for a specific tone, working on that and not just some random " plug and play"
    For me the technique option means : working on your skill, knowing super secret ninja fingers tricks, be quick to play, having a super groove , showing your death playing


    So the question is more :
    What interests you more between both ?
    What makes you say "wow"
    What are you the most proud of?

    Do you prefer a basic player who KNOWS how to play but has an identifiable killer tone or a show-off player that kills everything but sounds like everybody random tone ?


    C'mon guys not just the basic answer " One leads to the other " because it is not the point and also it is not always true

    EDIT 2 :

    Well I prefer being a B+ player with a great tone, worked with love and pain to find the perfect alchemy between hands, gear, personality, than being a A+ player ( who can play things considered as harder to play ) with a random OK tone
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2019 at 11:20 AM
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  2. SteveCS

    SteveCS

    Nov 19, 2014
    Hampshire, UK
    Technique begets tone...
     
  3. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    Tons of bass players play with (what many consider) "improper technique".

    But if it sounds great, I don't care if they hit the bass with a hammer.
     
  4. Clemouze

    Clemouze

    Sep 1, 2016
    Paris - France
    I was waiting this answer
    "I know the tone is linked to technique and technique linked to tone , but be serious "

    Yes but not at 100%
    Tone can came mostly from gear for example
    But yeah it could be coming from technique, for sure !
     
  5. Tone is easy. Every instrument has one.

    I work on technique.
     
    Nevada Pete, Lee Moses, eJake and 9 others like this.
  6. With good technique comes great tone
     
  7. Lesfunk

    Lesfunk Supporting Member

    Tone and Feel.
    I don’t care if your teqnique is hitting the strings with a dead skunk.
    If it sounds and feels good then it is.
     
    cressotti, Mike Sorr, smogg and 3 others like this.
  8. cnltb

    cnltb

    May 28, 2005
    Tone comes with technique as in, technique gives one choices to mold ones tone according with ones preferences where as tone removed from control over it...well...it's an accident.
    I like choice.( tone being one of these choices)
     
  9. I am more interested in musicality, feel, and groove. Tone is a part of that, but great tone and no groove isn’t all that compelling.
     
    Nevada Pete, Mark_70, gebass6 and 7 others like this.
  10. Spidey2112

    Spidey2112

    Aug 3, 2016
    Agreed.
     
    hintz likes this.
  11. Spidey2112

    Spidey2112

    Aug 3, 2016
    If I could only get Bob Vila in a pedal...
     
    hintz and JRA like this.
  12. McFarlin

    McFarlin Supporting Member

    Oct 27, 2011
    Austin, TX
    It’s a false premise. You should change this to a “Which Pickguard?” poll before it’s too late.
     
    Dwight Trash, teh-slb, eJake and 12 others like this.
  13. sikamikanico

    sikamikanico

    Mar 17, 2004
    Arkansas
    Define technique. Define tone. Otherwise, we may be talking about different things... the fact that you’re asking an either/or question makes me think you see them as separable. I don’t.
     
  14. Clemouze

    Clemouze

    Sep 1, 2016
    Paris - France
    Thanks for you answers but apparently you were pretty quick to read my post.

    The key point is :
    "I know the tone is linked to technique and technique linked to tone , but be serious! "

    YES we all know that someone who plays super great in terms of skills can achieve a great tone.
    But I can tell you that a lot of people that plays with a good level can sound like poopie and can have a random tone that no one cares.


    For me , the tone option means : working your tone, choosing your gear ( pickups preamp pedals strings amp etc ) , searching for a specific tone, working on that and not just some random " plug and play"
    For me the technique option means : working on your skill, knowing super secret ninja fingers tricks, be quick to play, having a super groove , showing your death playing


    So the question is more :
    What interests you more between both ?
    What makes you say "wow"
    What are you the most proud of?

    Do you prefer a basic player who KNOWS how to play but has an identifiable killer tone or a show-off player that kills everything but sounds like everybody random tone ?


    C'mon guys not just the basic answer " One leads to the other " because it is not the point and also it is not always true
     
    gregmon79 likes this.
  15. Medicine Man

    Medicine Man

    Apr 10, 2015
    none
    While connected, I do feel they are separate entities. I have heard some very middling players drive a great band because their bass sounds great through a huge svt stack hammering quasi steady 8th notes on the root, and some fancy players with great technique sound like trash because their setup or eq reeks. I would consider both of these situations as "tone." But technique is clearly the winner, as proven to me when I let my singer play my bass rig. Much of tone comes from technique.
     
  16. Clemouze

    Clemouze

    Sep 1, 2016
    Paris - France
    Yes you understood that and you are right !
     
  17. saabfender

    saabfender

    Jan 10, 2018
    Indianapolis
    Tone is an aspect of technique. The effort put into technique is done through a conceptual framing of tone. If you can't sing it, it won't come out of your horn.

    Tone is the dialect of the musical ideas you have in your head. It's how you hear them in their purest form. You acquire technique to give the ideas voice in your playing. When it comes to instruments, people have different levels of tolerance between the tone in their head and the one coming out of the speakers. It's why some people are always "looking for their sound" and others are not overly concerned as long as it's close enough.

    Need more better words for this stuff.
     
  18. lfmn16

    lfmn16 Supporting Member

    Sep 21, 2011
    charles town, wv
    It's a false dichotomy; you can have both. ;)

    I don't think I've ever seen anyone with great technique that had terrible tone, but I've seen many, many players with awful technique that also had awful tone. Not to say you can't have good tone with bad technique, just pointing out which is exponentially more common.

    For some reason a lot of people on TB dismiss the importance of good technique. You don't develop good technique for technique's sake. You develop good technique so that you can play effortlessly and concentrate on making music, not figuring out how to get from the A on your E string to the C# on your D string. Great players with poor technique are great despite their poor technique, not because of it.
     
  19. Clemouze

    Clemouze

    Sep 1, 2016
    Paris - France
    Ok I made some edit to clarify what I call tone and what I call technique

    The choice is in fact Great tone vs Impressive technique

    As an example
    I prefer spending time and effort crafting a tone through pedals and researchs and way of playing than spending time learning how to noodle as super fast slapitislapito pop or horse run as 180 bpm
     
  20. Strongly disagree.

    If your technique involves a dead skunk, I want a Youtube link, and I want it now.
     

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