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Tony Franklin Fretless problemsss

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Zakmusic, Feb 2, 2013.

  1. Zakmusic


    Aug 1, 2010
    I've heard that some fretless bass would have a lower nut height than fretted bass, but the T Franklin fretless I got has no nut height. The "real nut" is the ebony part past the nut at the headstock side. You can see a groove chewed into the ebony in the picture. And if i'm using the hipshot d tuner i guess its going to chew in more

    For those who have the same bass, do you have a similar issue?

    I've only got this bass for like 2 weeks. It plays fine now, but I'm not sure if it is going to cause any problems in the future, that nut slot certainly doesn't look healthy.

    I left the plastic protector film on the p pickups for sometime until i took it off recently and found that one of the pole pieces stick out from the rest of the poles. :rollno:This is really weird. Luckily the pole piece that stick out didn't cause sound problems. Just ugly looking pickups…i guess that's going to have some impact when I resell this bass.

    And the bass i got has a black pick guard instead of the brown shell one (i got a sunburst model). As I know, Fender did not offer this as an option on their site. Not really a fan of a black pick guard.:meh:Why is Fender doing this, do they just put on any pick guard they wish?:spit:

    What sucks the most is I ordered this online and I'm not living in US. I guess i've missed the 48hr policy for refund as more problems creep out. I've purchased basses online for a few times and it's always been good experience. But this time….:meh:sigh…..

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  2. What colour is the bass?
  3. Zakmusic


    Aug 1, 2010
    And heres the pic for the pickup

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  4. Zakmusic


    Aug 1, 2010
    Its a sunburst model
  5. Send it back.

    The wear in the board past the nut I could live with - the wrong pickguard and dodgy pickup... not so much.
  6. snyderz

    snyderz Supporting Member

    Aug 20, 2000
    AZ mountains
    Wear beyond the nut is common on a good bass. The nut is cut lower hence the wear marks. All of my EBMM fretless basses have had them, and never created a problem. Can't comment on your other issues.
  7. joebar


    Jan 10, 2010
    this exactly
    i had a fretless sterling which had the same nut situation; thought it was weird until i compared it with my buddy's sterling fretless and he had the exact same thing going on.
    i kinda like the black PG.
  8. khutch

    khutch Praise Harp

    Aug 20, 2011
    suburban Chicago
    Where did you buy this bass? The string grooves beyond the nut are not an issue but I don't know if they are standard. I have a much cheaper MIM Fretless Jazz I bought used and it has those grooves but they were made by a previous owner who filed the nut to lower the action. The sticking out pole piece is not right. The pickguard is not right. So is this a new bass or a used one? Used basses don't normally have the plastic film on the pickups but they could. If this is a new bass and not a gray market purchase then Fender will honor the warranty and fix/replace the pickup and fix the pickguard. They will replace the neck if it is defective but that may be how they are made for all I know. If it is used or if it was modified by the retailer where you bought it then the pickguard is not Fender's problem and the pickup and the grooves may or may not be. Unfortunately, if you bought this online from the US to bypass your local Fender distributor you may not have a warranty even though it is new, or you may have to pay all the shipping to have it serviced in the US. These are the risks you take when you make gray market purchases.

    The good news is that I don't think the grooves are really a problem, the pickguard can be replaced for a fairly low cost, and the pickup can be replaced but it probably can be fixed too. By all means contact Fender about what to do. I am sure they will be as helpful as they can even though you probably won't get the same service you would get if you had bought through your local distributors.

  9. Zakmusic


    Aug 1, 2010
    I got this from bass central and they are currently helping me out by contacting Fender. Too bad my place don't cater much for bassist, I can only get this bass online. This is my worst experience so far for online purchase. Fender sucks hard here man. And they have that tag that said "checked by X" and stuff…they let the wrong spec and a dodgy pickup to pass through? That tag is completely meaningless. This bass is new
    Herrick likes this.
  10. I would give Fender a chance to respond before you lay into them.
  11. unclejane

    unclejane Guest

    Jul 23, 2008
    The grooves in the board are normal and fine - that means the nut has been cut right, nice and low. It wouldn't be fine if there were grooves in the playing side of course, which would mean the nut was cut too low (and you'd have lot of buzzing in the open string).

    The popping out pole piece is not fine if it's the typical P split pickup where the poles aren't adjustable.....

    Looks pretty minor to me, but still worth sending back or getting a replacement PU...

  12. Stone Soup

    Stone Soup

    Dec 3, 2012
    FWIW, I think the black pickguard looks great with the sunburst. The pickup magnet is another issue. Just have a certified Fender dealer replace the pickup, under warranty.
  13. If the OP was expecting a tort guard (as I would, if I ordered one), it's understandable that he's not happy about it.
  14. blowinblue

    blowinblue Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2006
    SoCal USA
    It pains me to see that groove dug into your fretboard. The root of the problem is the non-angled headstock design. If you must have a Fender or one of the countless Fender wannabe copies being made you run the risk of this happening. I prefer a Fender shaped headstock done right. Of course, the 'done right' part is just one man's opinion. I refuse to own a bass with a non-angled headstock. And please don't shoot the messenger. :)


    M. M.
  15. Zakmusic


    Aug 1, 2010
    Thanks for your replies guys, feel better to know that the fretboard groove is an inherent issue. This bass comes with a D tuner, do you guys think that it is going to wear out the nut and the ebony groove more? Would it cause further problems
  16. joebar


    Jan 10, 2010
    I am actually glad to see the nut cut properly for this bass; the bigger issue with most fretless basses is a nut that isn't cut deeper to compensate for the lack of frets. this is proper.
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  17. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism Supporting Member

    Is this your bass? If so, do you still own it?

    I tried to PM you over this but, for some reason, I am not allowed to start a conversation with you.
  18. TMARK


    Jan 10, 2012
    Richmond VA
    I don't think the bass is new. I've never seen a new Fender where the nut was lubed with graphite. The nut looks really good, lower than Fender cuts them from the factory. The pickup doesn't make sense. I've never seen a non-adjustable pole piece pickup do that. And the pickguard doesn't make sense. It's like it was damaged or was a demo, set up correctly and a new guard was installed. Maybe a replacement pickup? I'm just guessing here.
  19. You do know that you can remove the pup and push the pole down with constant steady pressure ..right? or have your local tech do it..it's really not a big deal..as for the black guard..I think it looks great(matches the ebony board) and it is standard on the TF bass...even the black model comes with a black pg....The nut is cut well..don't fret over it( bad pun..I know)..that nut and fingerboard will last a really long time..I had a fretless with a hipshot d-tuner that had an rosewood board. gigged that bass HARD for at least 10 years before it needed any attention..the nut never wore out but the rosewood board needed sanding..your board is ebony,which is really hard wood so I wouldn't worry..
  20. JRA

    JRA where did the time go? Supporting Member

    fretless guy here: as others have posted: no reason to worry about the way the nut looks/works. in fact, on that bass = it's desirable! :thumbsup:

    i think the pu pole piece should be remedied. a black pick guard would be my choice!