Total Cell Phone Ban While Driving?

[Febs]

I wouldnt know, as I stated no such thing. I was only pointing out the error in stating that the NTSB is independent from any other .gov agency.

I actually based that on this statement from the NTSB web site:

In 1974, Congress reestablished the NTSB as a completely separate entity, outside the DOT, reasoning that "...No federal agency can properly perform such (investigatory) functions unless it is totally separate and independent from any other ... agency of the United States." Because the DOT has broad operational and regulatory responsibilities that affect the safety, adequacy, and efficiency of the transportation system, and transportation accidents may suggest deficiencies in that system, the NTSB's independence was deemed necessary for proper oversight. The NTSB, which has no authority to regulate, fund, or be directly involved in the operation of any mode of transportation, conducts investigations and makes recommendations from an objective viewpoint.

About Us - NTSB - National Transportation Safety Board

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

The body shop says my car should be ready next week. The gal who rear-ended me on December 6 had a phone but the insurance on her boyfriend's car did not include her as a driver. IMHO, people who insist on using their phones while driving should find a way to do so rectally.

If the phone call or text message is so important, go park and then handle it. After you're done, then resume driving.

 

[MatticusMania]

I actually based that on this statement from the NTSB web site:

In 1974, Congress reestablished the NTSB as a completely separate entity, outside the DOT, reasoning that "...No federal agency can properly perform such (investigatory) functions unless it is totally separate and independent from any other ... agency of the United States." Because the DOT has broad operational and regulatory responsibilities that affect the safety, adequacy, and efficiency of the transportation system, and transportation accidents may suggest deficiencies in that system, the NTSB's independence was deemed necessary for proper oversight. The NTSB, which has no authority to regulate, fund, or be directly involved in the operation of any mode of transportation, conducts investigations and makes recommendations from an objective viewpoint.

About Us - NTSB - National Transportation Safety Board

I dont buy it. No agency can be a part of our government yet totally independent from all other parts of it, IMO.

 

[Bob Lee (QSC)]

What gov agencies do you believe influence the NTSB?

 

[Tracebassplayer]

Does anyone think this ban will actually work? When we lived in Washington State, there was a law against driving and texting/holding your phone and talking on it. From my observations as I drove around town, many people continued to do those things. I don't know how many people it stopped, but I sure saw plenty of people still doing it.

-Mike

It started as a secondary offense in WA, OR, and CA. Now it is a Primary Offense in all 3 states - they can pull you over for that by itself - and carries a first offense $275.00 fine unless you are a Commercial Driver then the fine is 2750.00 for the same offense.

 

[Tracebassplayer]

Good points.

Let me ask this...how many of us have been hit, or nearly hit, by someone distracted with a mobile device? I have nearly been hit a couple times by texters.

-Mike

Too many times for most to remain sane..

It only happened once to me this morning on the way to work. Luckily, I saw him before he saw me, so I was expecting erratic behavior when it happened.

Good thing you weren't busy talking or texting on your phone.. there could have been a collision.

 

[Tracebassplayer]

The body shop says my car should be ready next week. The gal who rear-ended me on December 6 had a phone but the insurance on her boyfriend's car did not include her as a driver. IMHO, people who insist on using their phones while driving should find a way to do so rectally.

If the phone call or text message is so important, go park and then handle it. After you're done, then resume driving.

Both of THESE^^^^ =10000000000

and we can help them with the installation

 

[Tracebassplayer]

Right. Ive not been in an accident while using my phone because I wont do so in a situation I find unsafe. I hardly talk on the phone while driving, but if the need arises I will do so, regardless of the ban.

So, if you're gonna break the law anyway... why are you so up in arms about it??

 

[MatticusMania]

Id hardly say Im up in arms about it. Just providing another perspective.

What gov agencies do you believe influence the NTSB?

Id rather not get political.

 

[Tracebassplayer]

Id rather not get political.

Too late for that, now.... this is pretty much a political topic... government bans...

 

[MatticusMania]

Too late for that, now.... this is pretty much a political topic... government bans...

Yeah, but Im not elaborating for the grand prize of infraction points. As I stated my belief above, I dont think any faction of gov is independent from all other gov agencies.

 

[electracoyote]

Most reasonable people agree that anything that takes your eyes off the road or your hands off the wheel is a distraction and potential hazard.

But what about how often a cell phone has SAVED a life in a traffic situation? I myself have called 911 on the road when a drunk passed me on the freeway doing about 40 mph over the limit, weaving in and out of cars like Mario Andretti. A few miles up the road, a trooper had him pulled over. Thank god. ANd there are countless scenarios when cell phones can help avert disaster.

The point is, not everyone uses cell phones in a dangerous or hazardous way. And hands free voice activation is the way to go people.

Anything that bans my ability to communicate safely with others while I'm driving is a violation of my freedoms and liberties. It's just Orwellian.

 

[Selta]

Most reasonable people agree that anything that takes your eyes off the road or your hands off the wheel is a distraction and potential hazard.

But what about how often a cell phone has SAVED a life in a traffic situation? I myself have called 911 on the road when a drunk passed me on the freeway doing about 40 mph over the limit, weaving in and out of cars like Mario Andretti. A few miles up the road, a trooper had him pulled over. Thank god. ANd there are countless scenarios when cell phones can help avert disaster.

The point is, not everyone uses cell phones in a dangerous or hazardous way. And hands free voice activation is the way to go people.

Anything that bans my ability to communicate safely with others while I'm driving is a violation of my freedoms and liberties. It's just Orwellian.

The proposed ban specifically states the in emergency situations you'd be allowed to use the device.

 

[jmattbassplaya]

The proposed ban specifically states the in emergency situations you'd be allowed to use the device.

Yeah, but define emergency situation.

 

[Tracebassplayer]

Most reasonable people agree that anything that takes your eyes off the road or your hands off the wheel is a distraction and potential hazard.

But what about how often a cell phone has SAVED a life in a traffic situation? I myself have called 911 on the road when a drunk passed me on the freeway doing about 40 mph over the limit, weaving in and out of cars like Mario Andretti. A few miles up the road, a trooper had him pulled over. Thank god. ANd there are countless scenarios when cell phones can help avert disaster.

The point is, not everyone uses cell phones in a dangerous or hazardous way. And hands free voice activation is the way to go people.

Anything that bans my ability to communicate safely with others while I'm driving is a violation of my freedoms and liberties. It's just Orwellian.

No one is saying "everyone that uses cellphone is dangerous". Unfortunately, most that do, are.

as for your last comment...
Talking on your phone and driving a vehicle is not a Right nor a Freedom guaranteed by our Constitution.

 

[jmattbassplaya]

No one is saying "everyone that uses cellphone is dangerous. Unfortunately, most that do, are.

You obviously didn't read Tasty's posts

as for your last comment...
Talking on your phone and driving a vehicle is not a Right nor a Freedom guaranteed by our Constitution.

Just because it's not guaranteed doesn't mean it should be lost. Driving a car isn't a freedom either, but I don't see that going away anytime soon.

 

[electracoyote]

No one is saying "everyone that uses cellphone is dangerous". Unfortunately, most that do, are.

You have a link to the data proving that? I'd love to read it.

Talking on your phone and driving a vehicle is not a Right nor a Freedom guaranteed by our Constitution.

All of our rights and freedoms are not spelled out in the Constitution.

Can I talk to my passenger? It's not in the Constitution...

I push one button on my phone or the wheel of my car, and voice activation does the rest. It's quicker, easier, and less distracting to my driving than many things NOT being considered for a ban, like eating, smoking, picking your nose, changing the radio station or track on the CD, etc. the list is endless.

We gonna ban all those too???

 

[Tracebassplayer]

You obviously didn't read Tasty's posts



I may have missed one uniformed opinion. lol.

Just because it's not guaranteed doesn't mean it should be lost. Driving a car isn't a freedom either, but I don't see that going away anytime soon.

If driving a car is not a freedom/privilege, what is it?
Some people and most teenagers, they think it's a Right to drive.....,LOL.

If it's not guaranteed in the USAC, it's not a Right - was my point...

People lose their privileged freedom to LEGALLY drive a vehicle all the time.. via DUI, DWI, traffic/moving violations, loss of current insurance. so, yeah, it does "go way".

 

[electracoyote]

The proposed ban specifically states the in emergency situations you'd be allowed to use the device.

Still far too limiting. Now we have to have official government mandated descriptors for "emergency."

More government sticking its nose in my everyday business.

I'm going to be late for dinner. Just let me push one button and tell my wife. Please.

 

[Tracebassplayer]

You have a link to the data proving that? I'd love to read it.



All of our rights and freedoms are not spelled out in the Constitution.

Can I talk to my passenger? It's not in the Constitution... don't get asinine

I push one button on my phone or the wheel of my car, and voice activation does the rest. It's quicker, easier, and less distracting to my driving than many things NOT being considered for a ban, like eating, smoking, picking your nose, changing the radio station or track on the CD, etc. the list is endless. See above, again.

We gonna ban all those too???