Thanks I will be breaking them in while I am at work Friday Leaving them with Radio at moderate level playing through them all day. So I can give them a good test run After work
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Trace Elliot ELF
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Got one 110 Cab today it sounds pretty good.
When I get the second 110 Hopefully Saturday Depending on how much snow we get I will post Pictures of the ELF Rig
I've read through the continuing saga of Elf epiphanies, and I like it! An Elf is all I'll ever need.
While this band had not played together since July, once again, the Elf (and fingers) nailed it!
Robin
While this band had not played together since July, once again, the Elf (and fingers) nailed it!
Robin
Update on the 2 110 cabs.
Wow! I’m more than impressed at this point. Played a small restaurant/bar last night in the smaller indoors area (place has a huge outdoor area for bands in the warmer months) so things were cramped for space. Not only did the elf utilize the small footprint it has, the sound was absolutely huge!
I didn’t miss or feel the rig was lacking in any way, and this was with a heavy hitting drummer and two guitars playing through Marshall tube conbos playing 80s-90s metal and hair pop music.
I bought a piano bench to place the cabs on, it worked perfect. I had no issues with the bass response, and only had the throttle up about 1/4 of the way. Any more and it would drown out my monitor.
I simply didn’t miss having a bigger rig at all. Oodles of Head room, and a big booty. Wow. It’s my now go to small club rig without hesitation.
Some fellow musicians came out for the show, and were blown away with its sound. One even said I had the “perfect” P bass sound with that rig. He said he was going to tell his bassist about them
Anyone that had any reservations about how this performs, you can put that to rest now. I always run through the house with my di, but this rig turned up could have carried the room with about 75-100 dancing patrons we had jammed in there last night.
(I do feel bad for the pool tables the girls used as dance platforms)
Bottom line: this is a perfect rig for smaller clubs. TE and Peavey nailed it. I would never had believed it if I had not heard it with my own ears. For me not to miss my 212 cab says volumes about its performance.
The 4ohm loading really does open up its tonal characters. With pre gain about noon, I got a great tubey feel with a little grit and compression. It’s really cool.
If you zoom in on the picture you can see my volume setting. I never turned it up past 9:30 on the knob all night.
Small in stature, huge in performance. It’s a keeper.
Wow! I’m more than impressed at this point. Played a small restaurant/bar last night in the smaller indoors area (place has a huge outdoor area for bands in the warmer months) so things were cramped for space. Not only did the elf utilize the small footprint it has, the sound was absolutely huge!
I didn’t miss or feel the rig was lacking in any way, and this was with a heavy hitting drummer and two guitars playing through Marshall tube conbos playing 80s-90s metal and hair pop music.
I bought a piano bench to place the cabs on, it worked perfect. I had no issues with the bass response, and only had the throttle up about 1/4 of the way. Any more and it would drown out my monitor.
I simply didn’t miss having a bigger rig at all. Oodles of Head room, and a big booty. Wow. It’s my now go to small club rig without hesitation.
Some fellow musicians came out for the show, and were blown away with its sound. One even said I had the “perfect” P bass sound with that rig. He said he was going to tell his bassist about them
Anyone that had any reservations about how this performs, you can put that to rest now. I always run through the house with my di, but this rig turned up could have carried the room with about 75-100 dancing patrons we had jammed in there last night.
(I do feel bad for the pool tables the girls used as dance platforms)
Bottom line: this is a perfect rig for smaller clubs. TE and Peavey nailed it. I would never had believed it if I had not heard it with my own ears. For me not to miss my 212 cab says volumes about its performance.
The 4ohm loading really does open up its tonal characters. With pre gain about noon, I got a great tubey feel with a little grit and compression. It’s really cool.
If you zoom in on the picture you can see my volume setting. I never turned it up past 9:30 on the knob all night.
Small in stature, huge in performance. It’s a keeper.
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I had practice yesterday with my tribute band, and brought the rig to that.
This is a lower volume practice, consisting of two guitarists with small amps, a couple of wedges for vocals, and a drummer playing electronic drums. The room was a big garage-type setting, with concrete walls, a higher ceiling, finished smooth walls. My rig was up off the ground, in the middle of the room.
I noticed a lot of the low end was gone compared to the show the night before. I attribute this to not having my bass running through foh (in the garage) and it being away from the floor and walls, keeping the coupling effect to a minimum. While the rig sounded good (same bass and Amp settings as the night before) it was lacking the thickness I was getting the night before. Next week I will put it on the floor, and move it close to a wall to see if this has any effect on its tone. With the rear facing port, I'm guessing this will make a huge difference with the sound based on where it sits in a room.
Just wanted to pass that along to everyone. The tone was still more than good, it just lacked the thickness it had the evening before.
This is a lower volume practice, consisting of two guitarists with small amps, a couple of wedges for vocals, and a drummer playing electronic drums. The room was a big garage-type setting, with concrete walls, a higher ceiling, finished smooth walls. My rig was up off the ground, in the middle of the room.
I noticed a lot of the low end was gone compared to the show the night before. I attribute this to not having my bass running through foh (in the garage) and it being away from the floor and walls, keeping the coupling effect to a minimum. While the rig sounded good (same bass and Amp settings as the night before) it was lacking the thickness I was getting the night before. Next week I will put it on the floor, and move it close to a wall to see if this has any effect on its tone. With the rear facing port, I'm guessing this will make a huge difference with the sound based on where it sits in a room.
Just wanted to pass that along to everyone. The tone was still more than good, it just lacked the thickness it had the evening before.
IME, putting on the floor makes the biggest difference.
Be carefull about moving the cab close to a wall. It can cause unwanted consequences, especially with rear-ported cabinets.
My Speakers are at ear level when standing and semi in a corner They do a very good job of reproducing The open E and as good as any 210 I have played through if not a little better . The highs are definitely there if not as articulate as through a horn But in most cases that is a good thing. They Really like My New Ric And it's growl and my Ibanez SRMS805 And my P-Basses (3) And they take pedals well . For a pair of 110 Cabs I am impressed. Now I want to see what happens when you add a 2x8 to one of the 10's . This is no world shattering rig but for what it is and the fact that with a bass in a gig bag over your shoulder it can make load in at small to possibly medium gigs one trip probably all gigs with FOH support providing your band does not play stupid loud like mine used to.. The entire rig is 34 pounds . Add a small pedal board and bass and you are still right around a 50 pound load in/out. Would also be a good practice rig to leave in a very secure spot.
I'm running the Elf + Elf 2x10s. When I first got it, I assumed putting the rigs on a box would be the best -- because I always did that. However, I find the 10-degree angle of the driver gives me the best sound directly on the floor. So play around with that. I think you will find that it gives you the floor bass-bump plus the sound travels up pretty well.
I'm definitely just in the beginning stages of exploration with these cabs, I really haven’t done much in placement yet. I lucked out last weekend, I don’t think I could ever beat the sound they produced that evening. I’ll definitely mess around with them more as I play them. The rear facing ports are a new thing for me, and the 10-degree angle is something I didn't know about. It's definitely worth trying different options this coming weekend.
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Has only been using my Elf for a back up and a handful of rehearsals. Since we moved into our own space I’ve been using my TE V4. Elf tonight, first gig. Was concerned it might shut down due to my FX, but holy hell it was amazing. What a beast!
OK, now that I've sobered up..
Disaster struck last night. I normally always bring my V4 and 2x10, alas we had to supply to drum kit for backline last night and only had one car. There was a nice Ludwig kit we were due to share which something happened to, so the same guy 'managed to sort something'. The fact that the kick drum only had one leg was the least if its worries. Richy got his Mapex from the studio which luckily is a 2 minute drive away from the venue. We get set up for soundcheck. Guitarist has been gifted a nice Marshall 4x12 and is using his Peavey VK100, sound great. PA in this place is fantastic. The bass backline, however..
So I had my Elf with me just incase as that's what I bought it for, and as the company supplying back line only ranges broken SVTs and beat up Ashdowns. I was praying for a working SVT but alas it's an Ashdown. The VU meter actually worked, I was shocked. Into an EBS 15+10 cab. Now I can't quite think of a worse combo, especially stacked against a 4x12 and 2 small monitors. I was not please as the cab was wrecked. I assume it was the amp at first, as although I don't like EBS cabs, I can appreciate they are built like tanks. Swapped to the Elf and the cab is wrecked. Lets run back to the studio again and get the 2x10.
My Elf had cut out once in a rehearsal before after I was doing some slapping with fuzz on, so I was a little concerned as I have some sections with fuzz, distortion and octave and delay all on at once and in different combos. The Elf + 2x10 had plenty of balls and handled my FX perfectly. I ran it flat, with a slight bump in the mids - I'd normally have a little lower but was worried about power and being heard and only running at 8Ohms. Barry heard me just fine from the other side of the stage vs. his 4x12 back line as did Richy who's a hard hitter and has some seriously loud cymbals.
It lacked the warmth of my V4, but it certainly delivered a great tone that was both a trademark TE sound as well as my own. Very happy!
So what 2x10 cab did you use with the ELF? I am always looking for an excuse to buy another cab.
My rig consists of a TE 2x10H - the big one! - and a TE compact 15, both pre-Gibson. Pretty much every venue has PA support so I can generally get away with the 2x10 alone, but adding the 15 does give a much fuller sound, as well as the volume when it's a bigger stage/venue. Unfortunately I don't drive so bringing the full stack is rare these days. I've had them for 14-15 years and I've done hundreds of gigs and rehearsal hours with them. Currently the 15 is in the house for home use and the 2x10 stays in our practice place. The 2x10 is 60lbs easily, the 15 a little lighter. I see no need to ever change them until the speakers go!
