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Underrated Orchestral Repertoire

Discussion in 'Music [DB]' started by Snakewood, Jan 22, 2006.


  1. Snakewood

    Snakewood Guest

    Dec 19, 2005
    For me it has to be Tchaikovsky's 1st Symphony "Winter Daydreams." I love this piece to death. I would also have to suggest Beethoven's 1st Symphony, another fantastic piece of work that isn't performed as much as it should be.

    What are your selections?
     
  2. BassChuck

    BassChuck

    Nov 15, 2005
    Cincinnati
    Schubert 3rd and 5th
    Many of Haydn's pre-London symphonies
    Beethoven 8th
    Ives' 4th Symphony and "Three Places In New England" and "2nd Orchestral Suite"
    Harrison's 3rd
     
  3. neilG

    neilG

    Jun 15, 2003
    Ventura, CA

    Harrison or Harris? Roy Harris' 3rd should be considered standard rep.
     
  4. BassChuck

    BassChuck

    Nov 15, 2005
    Cincinnati
    Lou Harrison
     
  5. Snakewood

    Snakewood Guest

    Dec 19, 2005
    Bartok's 2nd Violin Concerto and Divertimento
     
  6. Machina

    Machina

    Aug 1, 2005
    Bottesini Concerto No 2...just had to throw that in.
     
  7. JayR

    JayR

    Nov 9, 2005
    Los Angeles, CA
    I just gave Schubert's First a read-through last week and it was actually a really nice piece of music with some bass parts that bordered on gut-busting (at least in the sight-reading dept.) Yeah, and I agree with the guy who said Beethoven's 8th. Poor beethoven's 8th. Stuck between the 7th and the 9th.
     
  8. Jeff Moote

    Jeff Moote Supporting Member

    Oct 11, 2001
    Beamsville, ON, Canada
    Bruch's Violin Concerto and Scottish Fantasy
     
  9. jvillarreal

    jvillarreal

    Oct 7, 2002
    Tulsa, OK
    Shostakovich Jazz Suites

    Happy 100th Shosti!
     
  10. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Under-rated by whom....:meh: ?

    Who is going round saying that the works mentioned here are poor and compared with what...?:confused:
     
  11. Snakewood

    Snakewood Guest

    Dec 19, 2005
    I never said any of these works are poor. Under rated meaning that they aren't peformed very often by major symphonies. I don't agree with the Bruch, I think that's a major piece of work. But I rarely see many of the above mentioned in a concert program. Especially Tchaik 1.
     
  12. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    That doesn't necessarily mean they are under-rated - it just means they aren't very popular with audiences... which is a completely different thing!! :meh:
     
  13. Snakewood

    Snakewood Guest

    Dec 19, 2005
    In my view those two are relatively the same things. To be honest, I don't really care. Seems like you're kindof trolling for an argument:confused:. Back to the original post:

    Rachmaninoff's Symphonic Dances!!!! so amazing, so rarely played
     
  14. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Not at all!!

    So it's quite possible for things to be very highly rated, but to be very unpopular - I think this is a very important distinction to make with music!!

    So - a lot of Schonberg's 12-tone row music is rated highly by critics and musical historians, but almost never played today, as it is unpopular with audiences.

    I think your title is misleading and a false premise - what you are talking about is :

    UNPOPULAR music !!
     
  15. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    I suppose my main point is that orchestras don't play things because they are highly rated - but rather because they think they will get an audience to come and see them play!! :meh:
     
  16. Snakewood

    Snakewood Guest

    Dec 19, 2005
    Dude...who cares? Stop carrying on about it. I'm talking about music that is performed often, and I'm not going to go making huge distinctions it's irrelevant. Call it what you will.

    Just to re-buttle. Is Mahler's Das Lied unpopular!?! I think not. Is it performed "OFTEN", no. Why? Because it's "Unpopular Music" ?? No, because it requires 100's of different instruments at the most random points in the work. It's difficult to get every free lancer in in a city to double up for 5 min in a song.
     
  17. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Well again - there are many reasons why pieces are performed or not - I agree!!

    But how pieces are "rated" by some notional person, is not one of them!!

    I strongly object to the title of this thread - it implies that classical music is somehow "rated" - when this is clearly not the case!! :rollno:
     
  18. Anonymous75966

    Anonymous75966

    Jun 29, 2004
    I have a composition degree, which makes me a specialist in unpopular music lol.

    I always dismissed the Concierto de Aranjuez as overplayed, light classical fluffery until I played in it ... and realized that it's really well put together and beautifully orchestrated IMHO. Mind you, I know some brass and violin players who hate it because they don't get any long lines.
     
  19. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member


    According to "Boa Morte" that would mean it's over-rated....:meh:

    Wrong thread? ;)
     
  20. La Forza Del Destino (oventure) G. Verrdi. 2.d concerto opp22 Wieniawski. Night on bald mountain Mussorgsky ( i know its popilar but not enough). J'ai ete au bal Grantham (not that gay sh** with the acordian but the one written for the Batton Rouge Symphony)