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UNIVOX lover's club

Back in early 2015 I came across this appealing fretless violin bass, a Univox 'Lectra U1970, hanging on the used guitar wall at my local GC. As far as I can tell it has all its original parts, and the original case too (which isn't terribly protective -- the Japanese makers don't seem to have believed in padded cases or hard shells back then). I gave it a try out of curiosity and found that I rather liked it.

Although it's seemingly a copy of the old Gibson EB/EB-1, it's hollow. It needed a little cleaning and adjustment; someone had raised the pickup so high that it was actually above the fingerboard, so the string would hit the pickup if you played very far up the neck. Once I lowered it, the instrument became much more playable and its tone more pleasant. It sounds more like a standup bass than most fretless bass guitars I've played. I replaced the strings with a La Bella DTB 760FS-S set; the neck is handling the tension fine, but I may switch to 760FL-S to make the strings just a little easier to bend, or I might even try 760FX-S.

From what I've seen online, nobody seems sure who actually made these bases, though Matsumoku is a common guess. It's certainly well-enough made to be one of theirs.

I'm intermittently tempted to go looking for a U1970F (the same bass with frets) in as good condition as this one (and hopefully at a similar price -- GC only wanted $349, but I've seen optimists asking double or more online for the same model in much worse shape, often with the bridge cover missing), but so far I have successfully resisted.

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Back in early 2015 I came across this appealing fretless violin bass, a Univox 'Lectra U1970, hanging on the used guitar wall at my local GC. As far as I can tell it has all its original parts, and the original case too (which isn't terribly protective -- the Japanese makers don't seem to have believed in padded cases or hard shells back then). I gave it a try out of curiosity and found that I rather liked it.

Although it's seemingly a copy of the old Gibson EB/EB-1, it's hollow. It needed a little cleaning and adjustment; someone had raised the pickup so high that it was actually above the fingerboard, so the string would hit the pickup if you played very far up the neck. Once I lowered it, the instrument became much more playable and its tone more pleasant. It sounds more like a standup bass than most fretless bass guitars I've played. I replaced the strings with a La Bella DTB 760FS-S set; the neck is handling the tension fine, but I may switch to 760FL-S to make the strings just a little easier to bend, or I might even try 760FX-S.

From what I've seen online, nobody seems sure who actually made these bases, though Matsumoku is a common guess. It's certainly well-enough made to be one of theirs.

I'm intermittently tempted to go looking for a U1970F (the same bass with frets) in as good condition as this one (and hopefully at a similar price -- GC only wanted $349, but I've seen optimists asking double or more online for the same model in much worse shape, often with the bridge cover missing), but so far I have successfully resisted.

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If someone's handing out member numbers, I'll take one, please.
Vintage 1970s Univox Lectra U1970 Fretless 4-String Bass + Gig Bag
 
I have an odd Univox Hi-Flier bass that I've been having trouble identifying. I don't have any pictures at the moment, but it's white with a red tortoise shell pickguard, it has a master volume and tone, 2 black rocker switches side by side, a covered bridge that seems to be stock, and it has a raised plastic logo on it. I've only seen one like it online and the person who owned it called it a 'Univox Princeton Hi-Flier' which I've never heard of. I already looked on the univox page and I couldn't find anything. I'll post pics later, but any help would be appreciated! I'm trying to restore it to a playable condition, so knowing what it is might help me find parts. Thanks!
 
I'd love to see some photos. Sounds like there are some unusual aspects to that bass, although it's always possible that some things like the switches may have been added.

As far as original parts, Ebay or Reverb may be your best bets. If you need pickups (hopefully not) then Eastwood makes reproductions.

I'm a fan of Hi-Flyers. Nice weight, short scale, and they sound good.
 
Actually someone who owned it before me replaced the bridge pickup with a gold foil guitar pickup for some reason, but I found a pickup from around the same year model, as far as I can tell, on reverb for $80 that I'm fairly sure my wife bought me for christmas (she's pretty awesome). I'm really excited to get it up and running! I'll get some photos up as soon as I can.
 
Actually someone who owned it before me replaced the bridge pickup with a gold foil guitar pickup for some reason, but I found a pickup from around the same year model, as far as I can tell, on reverb for $80 that I'm fairly sure my wife bought me for christmas (she's pretty awesome). I'm really excited to get it up and running! I'll get some photos up as soon as I can.

Nice! good news is that older Univox parts aren't usually too expensive. Nice find.
 
So I have some unfortunate news.. I worked really hard getting the above bass back to playing condition, I installed new tuners, re-glued the nut into place, replace a pickup, cleaned up all the wiring and hardware, polished all the frets up with a dremel and polishing wheel, and I even fashioned a new truss rod cover out of some spare pick guard material.. I finally strung it up to test everything and do the final setup, and the truss rod was being a little difficult, and I thought it was just because it hadn’t been adjusted in a very long time, so I used a little too much force and the truss rod snapped :crying: So, does anyone have any experience replacing the neck on a Univox hi flyer bass? I’m currently looking at a neck from eden guitars, anybody checked these out before?
 
I suggest doing more analysis before giving up on the neck. Can you get a wrench on the nut and attempt to remove it? If you can get any part of the truss rod out, you'll have a better idea what's going on. It *might* eeven have broken at the very top and left threads under the break which could still be used.

If you have to go after a replacement neck, Ebay may yield one with patience, or perhaps Eastwood could provide one which could be made to work. They've made a nice Hi-Flyer clone for years.
 
I removed the nut last night, and it snapped right at the end, so there's a possibility that there are more threads available. That being said, I need to cut the hole around the rod deeper so that I can access those threads and install a new nut. I found a stewmac tool kit that I could use to do this, but I can't justify buying it. Does anyone know of any equivalents to these tools that I could use?
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I removed the nut last night, and it snapped right at the end, so there's a possibility that there are more threads available. That being said, I need to cut the hole around the rod deeper so that I can access those threads and install a new nut. I found a stewmac tool kit that I could use to do this, but I can't justify buying it. Does anyone know of any equivalents to these tools that I could use?View attachment 3657362

One idea: I know I've seen other members here mention these. You might post in the Hardware, Setups and Repair forum and see if anyone has a tool you can rent or borrow.
 
Update on the repair: I did some more looking and found out that those tools actually wouldn't work even if I could get my hands on them because there's a metal spacer/washer that I can't bore in to. So I just bit the bullet and took off the fretboard. It wasn't usable as it was, so I figured I couldn't mess it up any further. I'm gonna do my best to salvage this neck, I'll keep y'all updated!
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