UPS/FedEx reduce heavy package fee threshold from 70 lbs to 50 lbs

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by blixild, Dec 30, 2019.

  1. blixild


    Mar 4, 2006
    Buffalo, NY
    This may be slightly off-topic since it’s not directly related to amps and cabs, but it has the potential to impact their price, especially for small cab builders and people selling here in the classifieds or elsewhere online.

    UPS, FedEx Fees on Heavy Packages to Hit Consumers and Merchants
    This article is most likely paywalled, but the key points are below:

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  2. Jim C

    Jim C I believe in the trilogy; Fender, Stingray, + G&L Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2008
    Bethesda, MD
    Thanks for this.
    Game changer for shipping cabinets and heavy amps.
  3. beans-on-toast


    Aug 7, 2008
    This is nothing but a money grab.

    Large items are often shipped ground, not air. It isn’t down to fuel prices. Companies like Fedex and airlines negotiate long term jet fuel contracts. They pay more than the current rates but hedge it over the length. When the contracts need to be renewed, rates go way up.

    Shipping costs have been out of control for several years. At the same time, large companies get VERY favorable rates, that’s why there’s free shipping.
  4. ihixulu

    ihixulu Supporting Member

    Mar 31, 2000
    South Shore MA
    I think we will see petroleum based transportation prices increase on a regular basis from here on out as the environmental impacts start demanding more attention (as if they hadn’t before, but let’s not digress). Possibly, they are starting to adjust for the inevitable carbon taxes and fees that will be coming around.
  5. Bandit127


    Dec 30, 2018
    It looks it, but it could be real and health and safety driven (OSHA for you guys I guess). In the UK, the "safe weight" for a single person lift is 25 kg (50 lbs). Anything above that needs 2 people or lifting gear, which makes the job more complex and time consuming and may mean special delivery trucks are needed for the carriers.
  6. beans-on-toast


    Aug 7, 2008
    Could be.

    I used to lift and carry for a living. Life is different today.

    The drivers and postal workers that I encounter all use carts these days. The warehouses are automated, no lifting involved. OSHA numbers are 23 kg for lifting and lowering for 75% of females and 90% of males.
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  7. saltydude


    Aug 15, 2011
    boston CANADA
    It’s probably cost them millions in back or lifting related injuries to their employees.
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  8. Riff Ranger

    Riff Ranger Supporting Member

    Mar 22, 2018
    Bigfoot Country
    Might be they’re aligning with international standards. When I worked for UPS 20 years ago, they required two people to lift anything over 70 pounds. If they drop that down to 50, that will add up to many more two-person packages, which will cost them.
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  9. Bassdirty


    Jul 23, 2010

    Also returned packages for dropped items that were heavier than someone thought. It seems heavy items (like a speaker cabinet) can do more damage to themselves when they hit the ground, versus , say.. a microphone stand or a 6 pack of strings.

    Just my thought.
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  10. El Güero

    El Güero Inactive

    Oct 5, 2015
    UPS used to (maybe still does) require that handguns had to be shipped overnight from a UPS hub. Nothing other than a way to jack prices way up.
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  11. yodedude2

    yodedude2 Supporting Member

    Nov 19, 2005
    san antonio, texas
    someone has to pay for "free" shipping. that would be us regular folks. as the great texan philosopher mr. vaughan once stated, "money's tight; ain't nothing free."
  12. Spupilup


    Jan 11, 2019
    New England
    I ship heavy, used auto parts, mostly sold through eBay. I'm on the east coast and the whole idea of "FREE SHIPPING" is nothing short of reprehensible. It divorces the buyer from any concept of cost to the retailer. Is anything but a "green" policy because for the saving of a penny people will gladly have a 35 pound item travel 3000 miles across the country. Finally, it puts an undue pressure on smaller sellers who don't have the benefit of multiple shipping points or national distribution. If you're on eBay and you don't offer "FREE SHIPPING" and "FREE RETURNS" your listings get buried by their algorithm.

    This notion of "FREE SHIPPING" was really popularized by Jeff Bezo's and Amazon. Initially, it was available to those who paid for "Prime" membership but evolved into the vast majority of items sold on Amazon being shipped with no additional shipping charge. Bezo's stated, back in the 1990's that he didn't care about profits. All he wanted was market share. He's shown that, over and over again. He has forced every online retailer or online marketplace to follow his lead first, with, "FREE SHIPPING" and then, with "FREE RETURNS." These features singlehandedly drove many smaller online retailers out of business. They continue to do so to this very day.

    Now, Bezo's and Amazon have created their own shipping company by hiring "independent contractors" to collect packages at their regional distribution centers to be deliver for a fee. Right now, Amazon delivers more packages a year than FedEx and are closing in on UPS. FedEx recently stopped working with Amazon because they simply could not afford to provide the logistics for the price Amazon was willing to pay. Do you think the "independent contractors" picking up carloads of boxes at the Amazon distribution center are in a better bargaining position than FedEx was?

    Frankly, if there was ever a need/time for Amazon to be broken up to prevent any further monopolization, it's now, as they are catapulting towards becoming the largest shipping company in the US.
  13. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa Boogie, Development Engineer-Genzler (pedals), Product Support-Genz Benz
    Amen brother, imo Amazon will be studied by business school students for decades to come.
  14. TerenceE

    TerenceE Supporting Member

    Dec 6, 2015
    Amazon is great until all retail jobs dry up. Between “free” shipping and “self checkout” the future is bleak for storefront retail chains.

    as for the change from 70-50lb for an additional handling fee

    it’s a $$ grab period. Ive been a courier for 20 years and every day I deliver 100lb plus packages by myself. The companies don’t care about their employees. All they care about is profit NOW. Amazon doesn’t even require signatures for their stuff. Every amazon box is a mystery Xmas present to would be thieves.
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  15. Herrick


    Jul 21, 2010
    Munchkin Land
    And then they add useless features to Prime (well useless for Herrick) like their crappy selection of streaming movies, music, & other stuff which raises the price.

    I think before Prime, shipping was free if one bought at least $25 worth of stuff.
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  16. seamonkey


    Aug 6, 2004
    Buy and sell local.

    If shipping prices go up you have a better chance of selling or buying locally for a fair price in your local economy.

    Ask manufacturers to include shipping on their warranty service.
    Better yet, ask them to support "Right to repair" so local shops can get parts and documentation so you don't have to ship it.
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  17. La Faro

    La Faro

    Jun 20, 2016
    Da Nang, Viet Nam
    My little brother is going to need a normal plane ticket from now on. Waste of a seat if you ask me!
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  18. sflajimmy


    Nov 6, 2005
    South Florida
    I totally agree. Big companies could give a **** about there employees getting injured lifting. On a similar note, I recently had a bass delivered and UPS just left it in my hallway. I'm glad I had the delivery alert text to me. I was at work and had my GF go get it and put it in my house. A $1700 bass and they left it without a sig for delivery #@!!.
  19. TerenceE

    TerenceE Supporting Member

    Dec 6, 2015
    next time put in an item not received claim and see if dude leaves it without a signature again lol
  20. Kukulkan61

    Kukulkan61 Inactive

    Feb 8, 2011
    Northern Arizona
    USPS has always been the cheapest way for me...
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