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Double Bass Using a Simple Power Amplifier as a head

#21
Ric Vice said:
Acoustic Image only built a small run of the Focus SA's. I believe
there were only 70 or so made, and they were'nt cheap either. The
new Demeter Minnie will do the trick nicely, I'm just waiting for
my dear friend Ken Jung to get his, so I can try it out. I've
been using my Headway EDB-2 on most all of my gigs.

Ric
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Have you been able to try this - wondering about the EDB-2 into the Demeter Minnie to a Big E 45. just thinking through going clarus or this route, i like the idea of the edb-2 as a stand alone device or with a small power amp vs clarus, but have not had experience with either.
 
#22
tappingtrance said:
Have you been able to try this - wondering about the EDB-2 into the Demeter Minnie to a Big E 45. just thinking through going clarus or this route, i like the idea of the edb-2 as a stand alone device or with a small power amp vs clarus, but have not had experience with either.
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Tapping Trance,
I have not, as Ken no longer has his Monique/Demeter Tardis. I have run the EDB-2 into the K8, and power amp sections of my Walter Woods MI-400-8, and Walter Woods Ultra all to great effect. In each instance the EDB-2 gave me the same stellar front end. There are TB members who have used it with both the Focus SA, and SWR Amplite. Once I get, all of my EA Cabinets, sold I'm going this route, I have no intention of ever owning a "head" again as they are getting harder and harder to have repairs done.

Ric
 
#23
I liked the EDB-1/Amplite because it had a very natural, round, almost three dimensional sound. However, the older Clarus has the same warmth and tonal balance when comparing both front ends setting the tone controls to noon. The Clarus sounds more two dimensional but it's much more convenient. I haven't tried any of the new AI amps but I suspect they sound (or don't sound) great.
 
#24
Ric Vice said:
Tapping …... I have run the EDB-2 into the K8, and power amp sections of my Walter Woods MI-400-8, and Walter Woods Ultra all to great effect. In each instance the EDB-2 gave me the same stellar front end.

Ric
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Ric, How do you runs an EDB1 or 2 into the Walter Woods and do you feel that The EDB's have better tone shaping capabilities than using the pre-amp section of the Walter Woods? In truth, Walters EQ panel has always confused me a little bit.. :help:
 
#25
Treyzer said:
Ric, How do you runs an EDB1 or 2 into the Walter Woods and do you feel that The EDB's have better tone shaping capabilities than using the pre-amp section of the Walter Woods? In truth, Walters EQ panel has always confused me a little bit.. :help:
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Treyzer,
Well, I find that the EDB-2 is as good, and perhaps a little more discrete with it's 5 band EQ, than Walter's setup, so it's just as good for my needs. Having the EDB-2 on a mic stand, close to your fingers allows you to adjust the EQ quickly. However, using a Walter Woods Ultra as a power amplifier probably isn't most purposeful way to run the Woods. You just run a 1/4" cable from the EDB-2's line out into the receive jack on one of the channels of the ultra.

Ric
 
#28
I love the sound of Demeter products. I now own one of the original series Tube preamps and an Tube DI, bought them brand new. Both of these needed to have work done to fix poor/intermittent soldering joints, right from the factory. Don't know how their customer service is these days, but it used to be terrible. Just stupid. I had a couple of pedals (comp and trem) that sounded wonderful too, but also suffered from poor construction.

Such a shame.

This Minnie seems promising, but I'd want to hear a whole lot of reviews on the reliability and road worthiness.

Mesa Boogie is bound to jump in on the mini power amp trend. Their stuff is always carefully conceived and designed, built to survive, very high quality.
 
#29
MR PC said:
I love the sound of Demeter products. I now own one of the original series Tube preamps and an Tube DI, bought them brand new. Both of these needed to have work done to fix poor/intermittent soldering joints, right from the factory.
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Good information to consider, just like you, I want reliability and customer service, if I'm going to pay $1000.00 for a power amplifier.

MR PC said:
Don't know how their customer service is these days, but it used to be terrible. Just stupid. I had a couple of pedals (comp and trem) that sounded wonderful too, but also suffered from poor construction.
Such a shame.
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Well, hopefully this stuff is ironed out these days, but I'd sure want to know if they have a handle on this, way before I committed to buying the Minnie.

MR PC said:
This Minnie seems promising, but I'd want to hear a whole lot of reviews on the reliability and road worthiness.
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I've been following the Jule Monique thread on the EB side, so for now I guess it's wait and see.

MR PC said:
Mesa Boogie is bound to jump in on the mini power amp trend. Their stuff is always carefully conceived and designed, built to survive, very high quality.
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That would be a good thing. It's beginning to look like Acoustic Image is the company to deal with if you want reliability and customer service.
 
#30
Everytime I look at one of these power amp solutions, I look back at my Focus III and realize that 1. it is the same size plus two channels. 2.It has combo plugs and phantom, 3. it has FX return (I use a EDB1 into it) and most of all it has Rick standing behind it fixing the damn thing for free if it ever goes bad (once I fried something on a weekend gig and had the amp back for the next weekend)
I used to have a Demeter Tube Direct and I dug the sound and that Minnie with the EDB1 velcroed to the top would be a nice little rig but....The Focus just keeps workin. Wish I loved the preamp on it though.
 
#31
Could be that QSC will come out with a mini amp eventually as well. For years, QSC has already offered super lightweight stereo power amps in standard 19" rack mounted sizes. And very reliable.
 
#32
MR PC said:
Could be that QSC will come out with a mini amp eventually as well. For years, QSC has already offered super lightweight stereo power amps in standard 19" rack mounted sizes. And very reliable.
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+1 I've had very good luck with my QSC K8 and it's designed as a modular unit, so you can repair it, with parts that swap out, so if the power amp crashes, you just replace the board.

Ric
 

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