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Using harmonics on bass in place of dead notes



Around the 1:50 mark, Tom Driessler (I think he did the bass for this) plays a brilliant bass fill which uses a combination of harmonics and dead notes. Does anybody know any other songs that use Harmonics in place of dead notes in basslines? Also does anybody know any exercises/recommendations on fretting hand position for these kind of basslines.
 


Around the 1:50 mark, Tom Driessler (I think he did the bass for this) plays a brilliant bass fill which uses a combination of harmonics and dead notes. Does anybody know any other songs that use Harmonics in place of dead notes in basslines? Also does anybody know any exercises/recommendations on fretting hand position for these kind of basslines.


Once Yussef Dayes parted company with Kamaal Williams, he started a new trio with Rocco Pallidino (Pino's son) on bass and Charlie Stacey on keys. The vibe is similar, and you may find some things that tickle your ear in their music.

Those guys basically create their own sound by simply doing what they want, playing what they want to hear, so there are no specific exercises that can teach that. So for you, your best bet it to just spend time with it and just copy it. Make it sound as similar as you can, and if you're lucky you will figure out how they do it. If you're really lucky, you may find that you can some up with your own thing. Doing that kind of deep dive is the thing that can shape your sound for the rest of your life.

Below, is the Trio's first album and if you really like that sound, you should copy every note, of every song as well as you can and eventually it will come. Many times you can contact the bassist directly and they are happy to tell you what they did.

 
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Once Yussef Dayes parted company with Kamaal Williams, he started a new trio with Rocco Pallidino (Pino's son) on bass and Charlie Stacey on keys. The vibe is similar, and you may find some things that tickle your ear in their music.

Those guys basically create their own sound by simply doing what they want, playing what they want to hear, so there are no specific exercises that can teach that. So for you, your best bet it to just spend time with it and just copy it. Make it sound as similar as you can, and if you're lucky you will figure out how they do it. If you're really lucky, you may find that you can some up with your own thing. Doing that kind of deep dive is the thing that can shape your sound for the rest of your life.

Below, is the Trio's first album and if you really like that sound, you should copy every note, of every song as well as you can and eventually it will come. Many times you can contact the bassist directly and they are happy to tell you what they did.


Thank you for the amazing reply man. This I really informative, also thanks for letting me know about this new band. Will definitely try this out.
 
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Thank you for the amazing reply man. This I really informative, also thanks for letting me know about this new band. Will definitely try this out.

No problem. I'm heavily into these guys and all the people they hang with in the South London scene. For me, it's the new sound of jazz.

And this thread was a win for me, because I was doing some looking around and found that Yussef Dayes has another album out called "What Kinda Music" on the Blue Note label with Tom Misch that features both Tom Driessler and Rocco Pallidino on bass. So thanks for that!

And I want to amend my comment about copying every song... You actually don't have to do that, although that would be best if you are into it. But honestly, you should start with the stuff that really moves you, because you have to like the music enough to really dig into it for a long period of time. And maybe come back later to the other stuff that might be over your head, right now.
 
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No problem. I'm heavily into these guys and all the people they hang with in the South London scene. For me, it's the new sound of jazz.

And this thread was a win for me, because I was doing some looking around and found that Yussef Dayes has another album out called "What Kinda Music" on the Blue Note label with Tom Misch that features both Tom Driessler and Rocco Pallidino on bass. So thanks for that!

And I want to amend my comment about copying every song... You actually don't have to do that, although that would be best if you are into it. But honestly, you should start with the stuff that really moves you, because you have to like the music enough to really dig into it for a long period of time. And maybe come back later to the other stuff that might be over your head, right now.
Yeah like personally for me even though I love the sound of old jazz it's really double bass centric. So modern jazz kind of works around that and makes it feel like being an electric bass player isn't a limitation when it comes to jazz. And Tom driessler is such an insane bassist, it's a shame he doesn't get more attention for his phenomenal playing, his bassline on calligraphy was insane and "flowww" by jitwam (with Tom driessler on the bass) is probably the best bassline I've ever heard
 
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..I love the sound of old jazz it's really double bass-centric. So modern jazz kind of works around that and makes it feel like being an electric bass player isn't a limitation when it comes to jazz

Exactly. That's where my head is now. In fact I just sold my electric upright to my guitarist because I realized I wasn't gonna do anything with it. My joints are old and it was killing my hands, lol.

Here is another group that uses electric bass in a more traditional role. They are kinda my favorite jazz trio and I'm friends with the keyboardist so I'm biased, but they really are a great trio.
 
Here is another group that uses electric bass in a more traditional role. They are kinda my favorite jazz trio and I'm friends with the keyboardist so I'm biased, but they really are a great trio.


trioKAIT is grrrrrrrr-eat!

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