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USPS & UPS

RocketMusic

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For the past several years, I've used USPS to ship small/light stuff and UPS for big/heavy stuff. Lately I've been noticing that my USPS deliveries have slowed down significantly; things are taking 2-3 days longer than normal to get delivered.

I finally asked my usual postal clerk about it today, and he said that as of Jan 10 any given post office now has just one big truck coming through each day. It's an early morning truck that drops off the mail that needs to be delivered that day and picks up whatever mail accumulated the day before. Prior to Jan 10, there was both a morning truck and an evening truck. So there's one day of delay added on to my deliveries. Another thing particular to my area is that our mail first goes to a hub in Roanoke where it does not get scanned (i.e no tracking update results) and then it goes to the next major hub in Greensboro, NC where it does get scanned. The same 1 truck vs 2 truck delay now happens at Roanoke, too, so there's a second day of delay added to my deliveries.

I used to be able to drop a package at the post office before 5 PM, and it would get scanned in Greensboro later that evening. Now it's getting scanned in Greensboro 2 days later. Before I talked with my clerk, I had been hoping this was a temporary thing, but it's not.

Putting myself in my customer's shoes, I would imagine that these delivery times (3 days for states near VA, 7-8 days for CA/OR/WA) are unacceptable. My instinct is to shift all of my shipping to UPS, which is a bit more expensive. I probably can't do that for everything (mainly single sets of strings that cost $25-30 and just barely cross our free shipping threshold).

Or maybe I need to raise that $25 free shipping threshold up so I can use UPS for everything? If I made the threshold $40 or $50, I wonder if folks would adjust to buying two sets of strings at once or if they'd just abandon shopping on my site altogether?

Or are these longer USPS delivery times reasonable? Should I just stick with USPS?

I'd love to hear whatever opinions ya'll have!
 
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Use Pirate Ship and save on both USPS & UPS.
Thanks! I use ShipStation, which is similar.

Their discounted rates are better than published, but it's still $5-6 to ship a set of strings using USPS, and I think UPS may be more like $6-7. On a $25 set of strings, the lion's share of the profit goes to USPS (or UPS). I could literally be making pennies on those sorts of sales.

That assumes everybody wants tracking. It's under $2 to ship without tracking... but that opens up a can of worms.

Anyway, cost is one part of it. Delivery times is the other. I think waiting 7-8 days to receive something (which is me shipping to the west coast) is a little absurd, but maybe I'm being too precious about that?
 
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I finally decided to do something to stop shipping from killing me. I raised the free shipping threshold on my website from $25 to $35. I also set a free shipping threshold of $35 in my Reverb store,

In order for the Reverb threshold to work, I had to remove free shipping from individual listings. So string listings from my store now get advertised on Reverb with a $3 shipping charge. That $3 charge will turn to $0 once your order totals $35 or more.

I'm going to keep an eye on that reverb setting. I'm not sure if it will help or hurt sales. At first glance it looks like I'm the only jerk on Reverb charging $3 to ship a set of strings, and the fact that you can buy 2 sets and get free shipping is not obvious. But if folks figure that out, it may lead to me selling two sets instead of one more often. Gun to my head, I'm guessing it's just going to discourage sales... but I'm gonna give it a shot for a couple weeks!
 
I have a somewhat related question: I've heard some stories about UPS pulling shenanigans with insurance. If you insure something valuable ($2k or so) they WILL NOT honor the insurance. They deny the claim and refund your premium. Besides the fact that this is actual insurance fraud, it's also just crappy customer service. Have you dealt with this at all? Can you confirm or deny it based on your experience?

Or maybe I need to raise that $25 free shipping threshold up so I can use UPS for everything? If I made the threshold $40 or $50, I wonder if folks would adjust to buying two sets of strings at once or if they'd just abandon shopping on my site altogether?
$30-35 was the standard 20 years ago, with inflation $50 seems fair. You've been cutting people a deal, and you need to adapt to the changing reality. Give people notice, maybe an email blast outling the change and when it's going to happen. Put a big notice on the checkout screen with an explanation of why it's happening, plus a "sorry for the inconvenience" or similar message. I think most people will understand.
 
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I have a somewhat related question: I've heard some stories about UPS pulling shenanigans with insurance. If you insure something valuable ($2k or so) they WILL NOT honor the insurance. They deny the claim and refund your premium. Besides the fact that this is actual insurance fraud, it's also just crappy customer service. Have you dealt with this at all? Can you confirm or deny it based on your experience?
My experience with UPS insurance is that it's pretty much useless. Their initial response is almost always to deny the claim by saying something like the packaging was not up to their standards; so many inches of padding is needed and your package didn't have that.

You can sometimes get them to pay if you're willing to fight them about it, but that means staying on the phone for hours. The only person I've know who was tenacious enough to do that was Gard at Roscoe. He'd be like a dog with a bone chasing that insurance.

I have no interest in being on the phone that long and pushing a rope like that. I just choose to not insure stuff, and when something goes wrong it comes out of my pocket. I'm pretty sure I've come out ahead on that at this point. And my blood pressure is much lower. :)
 
I've always wondered about that. It makes me especially pleased to have hung in there in 2021.
(My, that was a character-building experience. I'm still pretty proud of it.)
Hah - indeed I should amend my statement about the tenacious folks I know. You are now officially in the pantheon with Gard!
 
I ship close to 100 baseball bats a year, been doing it for 2 decades. I've found USPS to give me the fewest headaches. Yes, their shipping times are not as consistent as they used to be, but I still think they are the best.
Absolutely, I agree. They're the most reliable and least damaging of the 3 that I use (USPS, UPS and FedEx). I only use FedEx if a customer requests it, otherwise I avoid them mainly for cost reasons. I use USPS for small/lightweight stuff, and UPS gets the big and heavy stuff.

Shipping damage and lost items are thankfully pretty rare.
 
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