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Utterly despondent.

Hello guys, thanks for all your responses :) I guess I'll just keep plowing on and working at it and hope that I get somewhere with it some time.

Pick one song that you like, one that you know and can hear in your head and one that is relatively easy. Get the tab for it or use Sony's Digital Music Mentor software to create the tab from a MP3 or .wav . Practice that song till you have it down cold, only then move on. Keep picking songs you like and know (that can hear in your head). Master then move on to harder material. Also buy a good bass training book, read and follow it. Try:
Hal Leonard Bass Method or
Beginner Bass Guitar
Both avail on amazon.com

I haven't heard of Digital Music Mentor but it sounds interesting. What exactly does it do, and is it any good?

I have Bass Guitar For Dummies book, which I look at every now and then but I get stuck (maybe I'm just a dummy haha) - I'll have another bash at that.
 
I have Bass Guitar For Dummies book, which I look at every now and then but I get stuck (maybe I'm just a dummy haha) - I'll have another bash at that.

Hang in there & try not to be too hard on yourself as learning anything difficult can be frustrating. If it were something easy, then lots more people would be doing it.

I have the For Dummies book too. Though it's one great resource, I personally don't understand everything it's trying to explain to me. So I went out & bought another book, and another, & still another - some books shed light on things I didn't understand in others. The Bass Fitness book is good fingering exercises. I got a bi-weekly teacher who's VERY helpful. & I feel free to ask (some dumb) questions here to fill in any gaps I may be experiencing with all that other available knowledge.

Theory & repetition are important, and apparently so is some singing ~ so I'm going to start adding that to some of my practice time. See? We both learned something today! :hyper:
 
Hello guys, thanks for all your responses :) I guess I'll just keep plowing on and working at it and hope that I get somewhere with it some time.



I haven't heard of Digital Music Mentor but it sounds interesting. What exactly does it do, and is it any good?

I have Bass Guitar For Dummies book, which I look at every now and then but I get stuck (maybe I'm just a dummy haha) - I'll have another bash at that.
If you can't afford music lessons, then going through a book that teaches music reading is good. Once you are able to read music, you don't have to figure things out or play by ear. Then, you can open up a book, read from bass clef or tablature, and start playing songs and expand your repertoire.

You can always stick with being a "play by ear" musician but it takes more time and practice.


If there is something in that book that doesn't make sense, post a question here. Someone will be able to answer it.
 
Things are pretty different now from when I started out.. you have all sorts of resources, like Talk Bass, that just weren't available then.

I started playing bass in 1979, I think.. possibly 1980. Back then, and where I lived, the options for learning were slim and none. I took the route of picking things off the record.

First, I was a lazy guy and didn't practice as much as I should, so I didn't become an awesome bassist by any means, so keep that in mind. But I also had a natural ear for music, so picking out the basslines was a bit easier for me than for many.

I decided I wanted to be a good bassist, so I swore to study the basslines of Chris Squire. When I heard Rush, sometime in 1981, I swore to get those down too.

But those are very hard, especially when you are starting out, and I also took the approach that learning a lot of easy songs was good too. I remember learning Back in Black, that sort of thing, then playing in a high school talent show.

Learning those basslines was a little easier with a record than it is without another tool right now, because I could simply put my finger on the record to slow it down so that I could hear the notes. Now this can be done even easier with an app that will slow down the song, but keep the pitch the same -- no more mental adjusting of pitch to figure out what notes are what.

The thing is, as lazy as I was, I realized I wasn't going to get anywhere without really hard work. So I actually did apply myself a bit until I had learned a lot about the progressive rock tunes I loved. At first I could approximate them, then I could get all the notes, but not the technique, then over time, everything got a little better.

But none of that happens without a lot of practice, and the practice has to be effective.

So in your case, if you are trying to play along with an Abba song, and you get lost -- stop the song. Break it into chunks; say the intro and first verse could be one chunk. Play the sheiza out of that until you have it. Then move to the chorus -- focus only on the chorus for a while until you have it. Now go back and play from intro to chorus (you will make some mistakes at first, but don't get mad -- your brain has to stick those pieces together and it takes a little bit). Once you can play Intro through first chorus, the rest of the song can be easier because a lot of it will repeat. There may be a bridge to learn, but do it in chunks, and you will get it.

After you've learned your first one, the next one will be easier, so don't dispair if at first it seems very hard. Learning to think in a new way IS hard!

There isn't any substitute for practice and working at it. Doing the same thing over and over again is, admittedly, boring. But the satisfaction is when you can play the whole song -- even better, when you can play it in a band.

And all that other stuff about getting a teacher -- that is good advice. I should have done that when I was younger. I will have to do it now, because there is a lot I never learned.

Good luck!
 
Down load music slow downer software like the free "Best Practice". Sometimes when you decrease the speed of a song by 1/2 and raise the pitch by an octave, the bass line is easier to hear and pick out.

Check out the >500 link below for more great TB bass learning info.

Good luck.