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Double Bass Velvet strings megathread part II

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The Velvet site makes it sound as though the Anima is the fatter string. I haven't played either yet so that's good information. :)

From the Velvet site:

Anima's thinner core ensures a rapid response for pizzicato and arco players alike.

Garbos are really fat. As Adrian says certainly the D is thick but the G is almost as thick as the D because it doesn't have the copper winding. It's "plain".
 
The E. It was kind of weird (and a little morbid, sorry)... but the string broke at around midnight at a jazz gig. The next day, I found out that a friend of mine, a good young bassist whom I'd produced some recordings for, had died in a car accident at about the same time.
 
i stumbled onto this thread today, just when i was thinking i really ought to go ahead and get some Compas 180 SUITs.....

i'm hoping the OP will share further thoughts on these Compas Blue strings, or anyone else who has experience w/ them!
 
What is the tension of these like compared to Weichs? I recently tried the Compas 180 suit and I thought they were a little too low-tension for my bass.

Id like something just a small tad lighter than the weichs, but also slightly thicker.
 
What is the tension of these like compared to Weichs? I recently tried the Compas 180 suit and I thought they were a little too low-tension for my bass.

Id like something just a small tad lighter than the weichs, but also slightly thicker.

If they follow the Velvet even-tension philosophy, it should be about 25 kg per string. I know Garbos and Animas are 25 kg, but Garbo lights has lighter tension. As far as I'm concerned, all of the Velvets are low tension strings.
 
Excellent strings. I recently switched to Blues after a long search for the perfectly versatile string. And though they aren't perfect they seem to do everything well. I am very satisfied with these strings.

Pizzicato on Blues is responsive, warm and full with big resonance, yet clear and punchy too. Imagine that. I play pizz mostly though I can also say that arco on Blues is quick and reasonably responsive. The Blues are not as smooth sounding to me as Dominants or Pirazzis under the bow, and not as quick, accurate, and responsive as Corelli strings, but they do pretty well. You can even slap the Blues with reasonably good sound results; not gutlike, but not so metallic either.

I'm using the Blues on a fully carved Chinese bass that has been well voiced, a responsive instrument. I've used gut strings on this bass, as well as Corelli 370F, Dominants, Pirazzi, Helicore, and a combination of Innovation and Dominant, as well as several other sets and combinations I can't remember. On this bass the Blues are the best. Corelli 370s are my second favorite.

The tension of Blues is relatively soft and even across the strings, 55lbs. This is more tension than standard gut strings, and a few lbs less then Corelli 370F. So this means they are also lower tension then Spirocore Weich, Helicore Lights. The Blues are easy to play, with just enough tension that you don't have to overplay them, as I find necessary with gut strings to quicken the response. You don't have to work so hard with Blues. The Velvet people understand string tension and response very well. Good for them. And good for me for buying a set!

I have only one complaint, the A string has ridges that hang up my fingers a little. But I've adjusted, and playing the string a lot has worn some of the grabbiness out of it. And I should also say in ending that I haven't had the Blues long enough to know their durability. I play them every day, and perform often, so I'll soon know about that.
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Updated, Oct 13.

After playing these strings for a month and a half, including regular performances, my opinion remains essentially the same. Except I do have one additional critical observation. The copper windings tarnish quickly, and the strings become grabby as a result. It's not just the A string that is a problem, due to the ridges, they all tarnish and become grabby. Regular wiping with a cloth helps, though the tarnish returns quickly. I can feel it, though not really see it on the strings. I wipe them often during gigs, and still the problem persists. Such is the nature of copper, so quick tarnishing is intrinsic to these strings. I'm sensitive to it, others might not be.

The strings sound so good, especially when playing pizzicato, that I will manage the tarnish problem. And if Velvet can improve the string design to overcome this, perhaps by using a copper alloy or other metal that resists quick tarnishing, yet still retains the sound and tension of the Blues, that would be a great set of strings.
 
Hi folks, was wondering if anyone can give me any pros and cons about modern gut strings. I've been using Velvet Garbo's for years now, but am considering switching to Pirastro Chorda's or anything else people might like to suggest. I was listening to some Ben Wolfe and Carlos Henriquez and apparently they both use Chorda's.
 
Real gut strings are a cruel and shallow money trench, a long leathery hallway where formerly contented bassists become obsessive idiots, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.

I'm a long time gut string user and I'm currently using Velvet Animas. As much as I like gut strings, there really are a great many problems that go along with using them. So beware! :eyebrow: Seriously, I'd advise you to just stick with the Garbos if you like them. But if you must...

I've never tried Chordas, but I've heard that they are very large in diameter. They also have the traditional roundwound E&A that can be problematic. Your bass will likely need some setup work to accomadate them. Although they seem to have their fans, Chorda is probably not the best option for gut strings. If you read a lot of the posts here, the consensus is that Gamut gut strings are some of the best guts currently available. If I were you, I'd order a Gamut plain gut D&G string in medium gauge (this will cost you nearly $200 for the 2 strings) and try them out with your Garbo E&A. If you like them, then you can possibly explore other options for the E&A. (although some people have found the Garbos to be a very good match). Other popular choices to go with plain gut uppers are Gamut's wound E&A, Velvet Anima, Pirastro's Pizzicato, Evah Pirazzi, and Permanent as well as Thomastic Spirocore and Superflexible.

Good luck!
 
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