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Vintage? How Old?

#21
smcd said:
"Vintage" is entirely age. It has absolutely nothing to do with quality or craftsmanship. Anyone claiming otherwise is attempting to redefine the term.

''Vintage is quality and craftsmanship''..... pah-leeeeez!!

The 'original' term was linked to wine production, going back several hundreds of years. But like many words in all evolving languages, vintage took on other meanings. Vintage as applied to wine has no bearing on vintage as applied to mass produced guitars.
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You ssem to be the only one with this definition, hence the only one redefining it.

Vintage means old AND of superior quality, it being for wine, instruments or anything else. A crappy chinese or russian bass from the 60s isn't vintage. It has no superior quality and little value.

Oxford Dictionary:
vintage
Pronunciation: /ˈvɪntɪdʒ/
adjective
1. relating to or denoting wine of high quality:
vintage claret
2. denoting something from the past of high quality, especially something representing the best of its kind:
a vintage Sherlock Holmes adventure
 
#22
smcd said:
The 'original' term was linked to wine production, going back several hundreds of years. But like many words in all evolving languages, vintage took on other meanings. Vintage as applied to wine has no bearing on vintage as applied to mass produced guitars.
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Right, there are many ways to use the word "vintage". As an adjective, here are some examples.

1. (Miscellaneous Technologies / Brewing) (of wine) of an outstandingly good year
2. representative of the best and most typical vintage Shakespeare
3. of lasting interest and importance; venerable; classic vintage films
4. old-fashioned; dated
 
#23
Jazz Ad said:
Vintage means old AND of superior quality, it being for wine, instruments or anything else.
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Not necessarily. Take "vintage" cars, for example. Think of the absolute worst car manufactured in the 1950's (you choose). That total POS is still a "vintage car" no matter how bad it was, just due to it's age.

Same goes for guitars and scores of other items of nostalgic interest.
 
#28
Jazz Ad said:
You ssem to be the only one with this definition, hence the only one redefining it.

Vintage means old AND of superior quality, it being for wine, instruments or anything else. A crappy chinese or russian bass from the 60s isn't vintage. It has no superior quality and little value.

Oxford Dictionary:
vintage
Pronunciation: /ˈvɪntɪdʒ/
adjective
1. relating to or denoting wine of high quality:
vintage claret
2. denoting something from the past of high quality, especially something representing the best of its kind:
a vintage Sherlock Holmes adventure
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Well... at least 2 people have that definition. Me and Noah Webster -



1: vin·tage
noun \ˈvin-tij\


1 a (1): a season's yield of grapes or wine from a vineyard (2): wine; especially: a usually superior wine all or most of which comes from a single year

1b: a collection of contemporaneous and similar persons or things : crop

2: the act or time of harvesting grapes or making wine


3a: a period of origin or manufacture <a piano of 1845 vintage>

3b: length of existence : age
 
#29
Jazz Ad said:
You ssem to be the only one with this definition, hence the only one redefining it.[/I]
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No, Jazz Ad, you're the one redefining the word. The primary correct usage is "of the time" (or in winemaking, from the same crop").

The secondary, and most correct when used WITH the "of the era" definition, is "of a certain quality."
 

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