What bass is this?

[Makten]

I'd put a "Fake" logo with Fender font on it. You could probably have AI to do that.

 

[kodiakblair]

i think technically FMIC could go after you for selling it logo’d as is, too?

Nope. Replica goods are OK provided the fact is clearly stated when moving it on.

 

[Smooth_bass88]

Curious how did you end up with it?

I never feel right selling outright forgeries. It’s the next next guy that can get screwed.

i think technically FMIC could go after you for selling it logo’d as is, too?

Absolutely they will go after you. They'll show up at your house, your place of work, even if you're walking down the street. They drive unmarked vehicles, wear masks and don't identify themselves. They'll detain you, questioning you for many hours before flying you down to Fender's Ensenada Mexico facility where you'll be forced forced to perform manufacturing and setup of Precision basses, jazz basses, even snort svale basses.

 

[Deleted member 271037]

Nope. Replica goods are OK provided the fact is clearly stated when moving it on.

Are you absolutely sure about this?

I guess this would depend on the laws of whatever country you're in, but in my part of the world I'm pretty sure it would be illegal to sell it with a Fender logo, even if it's clearly stated that it's a fake.

Basically:

Fender logo = illegal counterfeit (probably even if it didn't actually look like a Fender).
No Fender logo = just another Fender clone (at least as long as the headstock shape is slightly different, which it is).

 

[Wood and Wire]

Absolutely they will go after you. They'll show up at your house, your place of work, even if you're walking down the street. They drive unmarked vehicles, wear masks and don't identify themselves. They'll detain you, questioning you for many hours before flying you down to Fender's Ensenada Mexico facility where you'll be forced forced to perform manufacturing and setup of Precision basses, jazz basses, even snort svale basses.

Ha!


Waves pretty much did do that, about 15 - 20 years ago, when software piracy was rampant, and their plugin bundles were being cracked, and used in commercial studios.


I seem to remember Waves didn't want to use iLok copy protection, so whilst they were figuring out their own revised online licensing system, they were sending agents to studios all over the world, under the guise that they were looking to book the studio, and wanted to check their facilities, and plugin list etc.

If they found unlicensed Waves plugins on the studio system, things got pretty heavy handed, pretty quickly.

 

[meisi]

Absolutely they will go after you. They'll show up at your house, your place of work, even if you're walking down the street. They drive unmarked vehicles, wear masks and don't identify themselves. They'll detain you, questioning you for many hours before flying you down to Fender's Ensenada Mexico facility where you'll be forced forced to perform manufacturing and setup of Precision basses, jazz basses, even snort svale basses.

No, it usually manifests in the form of a strongly worded letter. They can be quite effective given the right letterhead.

 

[FretRiff]

Nope. Replica goods are OK provided the fact is clearly stated when moving it on.

Nope.

The use of trademarked logos on replicas constitutes trademark counterfeiting, which is illegal under U.S. law and many other jurisdictions. Even if sellers disclose that the items are replicas or not authentic, the unauthorized use or sale of a trademarked logo or brand name infringes on the trademark owner's rights and can lead to civil and criminal penalties. Selling goods with counterfeit trademarks -- logos or marks identical or substantially indistinguishable from registered trademarks -- is a violation of the Lanham Act and can result in fines, damages, and even jail time.

Simply stating that the goods are replicas or not authentic does not protect sellers from liability if the products bear trademarked logos or marks. The law focuses on the likelihood of consumer confusion and trademark infringement, not just buyer deception.

TRADEMARK COUNTERFEITING – Cohn Legal, PLLC

www.cohnlg.com

Knockoffs are not the same as trademark counterfeit items, so the above does not apply -- but that is not the situation we're discussing.

 

[Pep]

Absolutely they will go after you. They'll show up at your house, your place of work, even if you're walking down the street. They drive unmarked vehicles, wear masks and don't identify themselves. They'll detain you, questioning you for many hours before flying you down to Fender's Ensenada Mexico facility where you'll be forced forced to perform manufacturing and setup of Precision basses, jazz basses, even snort svale basses.

What he said!

 

[fnp5150]

If the parts are decent you could take it apart and save some for any possible future projects. If that's a no-go, it would probably save you a lot time and headache to just fix the logo and neck plate issue as mentioned and give it away. Or just throw it away.

 

[Pep]

Good point. I was young and someone was selling it marketed as a real FMIC instrument. I won’t say what I paid but it was a lot more than I care to admit. I’m sad about it in hindsight, but that was over 10-15 years ago.

I’ve loaned it out as a learner bass to other people and tried to get it to play as well as I could but it never sat right with me. It came back into my possession after a long time and so I put it next to my Squier CV 50s and realized how naive I’d been all those years ago.




Yeah, the less I think about it the better.

I wouldn’t even loan it out with the Fender logos and the neck plate. It could still end up in the wrong hands and if becomes a legal situation it comes right back to you.

 

[kodiakblair]

Nope.

Thanks for putting me right, it's a mistake I won't repeat