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WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MELLOTRON???

Robert Fripp once said that tuning a mellotron doesn't.

That's some funny stuff.
Fripp is both humorous and intelligently accurate. Very British (in a good way).

The most amazing thing about his work with the mello, IMO, was that although he began using it as a string section substitute in early KC work, by Larks Tongues in Aspic, he had clearly decided to use it as an improvisational instrument unto itself. I don't keep up much with that genre anymore, but the result was to me a highly original thing. It was sort of like some ethereal force improvising on the changes. The live stuff is especially amazing. Tuning notwithstanding, he turned in some remarkably creative performances, which to my understanding remain as a fairly unique thing.

The standard string section imitation done by most of the other groups using it is OK, but Fripp's work is special. IMO
 
OPBASSMAN1994 said:
So I fell in love with the sound of the mellotron on "Watcher of the skies" by Genesis (from Foxtrot), and I thought I'd try to find one on ebay, craigslist, guitarcenter vintage, elderly, musicgoround, even some boutique piano shop site, just to see what one might cost, what a real one looks like (I've never seen one, which should have told me something anyway). NOTHING.

So here's my question:
How can one of the most talked about keyboard instruments of the sixties and seventies (and a mafia godfather of the modern synthesizer and sampler) just disappear?

Where did they go? Rick Wakeman or Tony Banks' house?

That particular mellotron from Watcher of the skies is if I remember right, was sold to Genesis from... King Crimson. They called that one "the black bitch" due to the weight and bad mood.
My guess is that most mellotrons which are in order are own by the big bands and used only in studio.

I also find it strange that almost no bass player is using a bass pedal!
 
I saw the Moody Blues at Red Rocks last night...and I can assure you that their sound is still going without needing an original Mellotron. Fantastic concert, and they sound as good as ever. Keyboards can do the Mellotron trick quite well now.

Here's a shot of the Moody Blues just before sunset last night - note two drum kits.
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Incidentally, Ray Thomas, the band founder and flute player, has retired - replaced by Norda Mullen [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] who is excellent!
 
I found out what happened to the mellotron.....

It's been compressed into free zip files by some guy that has a 73 MKII and I now have them! :D


Now I just need to find a two way audio cable (that has the circumference of headphone jack phones) that audios out, and I can audio in to my Casio's sampling unit and BOOM. I've got a mellotron built into my 200 dollar keyboard! :p
 
Not to pick nits, but many of you are talking about tape loops, but they weren't loops, they were about 8 seconds of linear tape with a weight on the end to "rewind" it when you let up on the key. That's one of the things that made them sound so distinctive - the recorded attack at the beginning of every note.

You're absolutely right. The tapes were just a straight piece of tape.

There was what amounts to a washing machine motor at the bottom of the casing. It had a pulley on the end driving another pulley by means of a rubberised belt and that second pulley was in turn attached to a chrome plated shaft that ran right across the width of the machine - this ran continually while the machine was switched on

All the tapes were laid into guides just above the shaft and the notes were activated by nothing more sophisticated than the keys having a pinch roller on them and a felt pad. When you pressed a key, the pinch roller pressed the tape onto the rotating shaft to drag it over a tape head and a felt pad pressed the tape onto the head. The tape that had been pulled across the head simply fell into a bin towards the rear of the instrument and was long enough for about 8 seconds, as I recall it was a long spring that pulled the tape back rather than a weight. To hold chords for more than 8 seconds a mellotron player had to let go of some of the notes in the chord and give them chance to get pulled back.

There were three tracks on each tape, you could get sets with different combinations of instruments but one of the most popular was one with flute, strings and choir. There was a rotary knob on the left hand side of the keyboard that let you select which of the three tracks would be played by sliding all the tape heads from left to right. The knob was detented but you could wedge it into the middle so that the tape head sat across two of the recorded tracks to give you a string/choir combo (or whatever).

The second knob on the left hand was a pitch control that worked simply by altering the speed of the motor (Strawberry Fields uses this I think).

I know all this because as well as a B3 our keyboard player used to gig one - It didn't cost us $5000 dollars though, back in 1978 we offered a local music shop a straight swap for a Marshal PA system and they went for it - probably $500 dollars worth.

It was a nightmare. As if the whole mechanism wasn't fragile enough the speed control on the motor wasn't that great and the pitch used to wander all over the place. Also, when we unloaded it from a cold van and bought it onto a warm stage the chrome roller that pulled all the tapes would get condensation all over it and then the individual notes would slip wildly and it would just sounds like a braying donkey - a hair drier became an essential part of the band's gig equipment to dry the thing out. The drive pulley would also slip so keeping the thing in tune was a nightmare. Eventually, although we really liked the sound, the keys player got fed up with it and sold it to the keyboard player from Marillion.
 
I love seeing Mellotron threads pop up every now and again on various forums.... it's a great reminder to all the old hippies that not everything was better back then. We don't have mellotrons for the same reasons that we don't drive Model Ts on the highway or cook all of our dinners over a campfire spit. Though I'm all for nostalgia, I wouldn't think that my Mickey Mouse turntable I had as a kid would be preferable to a modern Technic.
 
Today is probably the best time to own an original machine. There are more experts on restoring them than ever. If you acquire an unrestored one you will have to have it gone through or you will soon get tired of it.. Every time I play my carefully restored 'trons I'm stunned with what the machine does with tapes. The sound is absolutely AMAZING and the only maintenance is oiling the motor and demag/clean the heads twice a year! That's less than maintaining an electric bass!! So.. don't believe everything you read.
 
I love seeing Mellotron threads pop up every now and again on various forums.... it's a great reminder to all the old hippies that not everything was better back then. We don't have mellotrons for the same reasons that we don't drive Model Ts on the highway or cook all of our dinners over a campfire spit. Though I'm all for nostalgia, I wouldn't think that my Mickey Mouse turntable I had as a kid would be preferable to a modern Technic.

Mellotrons have come back to stay. Everybody's using them again. Where have you been?
Black flat keyboards are ugly. White mellotrons aren't. ;)