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What mixer do you use?

#21
As a bass player these days ,in my trio , I run the inears mix through an isolated split snake in a MOTU 828MKIII. For the price , it's a very good solution for this.


As a soundman , I've tried them all, except DIGICO and Avid stuff.
Some that I particularly hate ;
-Soundcraft Vienna II ( The EQ doesn't work)
-Innovason. The OS crashed on me two time during a show. How can you design a pro console with Microsoft as your OS ? :scowl:


Some I really liked ;
-Gamble (got to be aware of the reverse Gain! )
-I like the "upper end" digital Yammies.
Worked so often with them , second nature now. I really dig the sound of the DM2000.
-Upper end (older) Midas. The recend ones (Verona in particular) are less reliable IME.

So many good products out there now.:hyper:
 
#22
TimmyP said:
What do you want it to do that it does not?
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It can´t:

-Automatically switch the cue "on" to headphones when I recall a monitor-mix in "sends on faders"-mode. Would be superbly helpful.

-Custom layer master can´t be assigned to follow send layers (also, see above)

These are the ones that quite bother me.

Don´t get me wrong, though. I really like LS9, it´s just not my #1 choice for mixing monitors. You can only expect so many things in that price range...
 
#25
I always used Soundcraft mixers, since the 80s when I started making music.
To me they offer the best compromise between quality construction, useful features, decent price and good tones.
I still do today, with an e12 that proved reliable and well thought more times than I can count.
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#26
TimmyP said:
I'd like to investigate, but I don't get what you are saying here.
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Maybe I was a tad unclear, but I meant this:

In "sends on faders" layer the master fader becomes the master fader for the bus you have selected. But only on the "basic" layers (either 1-16/17-32 on LS9-16 or 1-32/33-64 on LS9-32).

In "custom fader layer" this doesn´t work. You´ll have to monitor your bus mixes through master-layer, which means some "page-skipping" (which, when serious feedback happens, is a PITA). You can only assign the master fader for one task in CFL...

It would be nice to have an option in the "preferences" folder. Hoping for a software upgrade...
 
#27
seeing as there's plenty of "DIY sound from stage" type players like me around here, i'm astonished to only be the second one to extoll the ol' mixwizard!

it seems like everything else is either not as well-built or way more expensive. it's almost like it's in a market niche of one.
 
#28
Over the years:
Yamaha 2404, 2408, 2410-II
Soundcraft 2S (with giant meters), 200SR
Crest XR-20's
Barnum Industries custom
Yamaha PM-1200, M-2000
Custom 16x6 monitor mixer I hand built in ~1981 or 82 as proof of concept
 

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#30
Crest XR20...

This was an upgrade from an old, reliable Mackie CR1604VLZPro. While the Mackie was a workhorse that never gave us one minute's worth of trouble, when we moved to the Crest, we immediately noticed a clearer sound from the preamps, and the expanded EQ was especially nice to work with! The layout is just right for your typical "band work", and the rack-mountable footprint is really convenient. Highly recommend.
 
#31
bigbajo60 said:
Crest XR20...

This was an upgrade from an old, reliable Mackie CR1604VLZPro. While the Mackie was a workhorse that never gave us one minute's worth of trouble, when we moved to the Crest, we immediately noticed a clearer sound from the preamps, and the expanded EQ was especially nice to work with! The layout is just right for your typical "band work", and the rack-mountable footprint is really convenient. Highly recommend.
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The preamps are a VERY small reason for why the mixer sounds better. There's 95% more circuitry involved, some of it way more likely to contribute to the sound/performance difference. In fact, the typical preamp circuitry on all of the mixers of this catagory are very, very similar (in some cases exactly the same). Marketing folks find it easier to credit the preamps because it's easier to understand than say the summing amps and output line drivers.
 
#33
For anyone who might be interested, I highly recommend downloading the Digidesign Venue standalone client. It's basically a very easy to use program, which is a stand alone version of what runs the digidesign console(s). You really get a whole new outook on whats going on in the pro console world. Have fun. :)
 
#36
Wow, quite a variation in consoles. There's a lot of entry level stuff and there's also a lot of high end stuff.

Well, I've been using my Mackie Onyx 1640 for the last 4 years or so and have been very pleased with it. My only beef is that it has no internal effects and DSP. I had to spend quite a bit of money on external FX and DSP units. I do love the fact that with the Firwire card you could record everything onto your laptop.

With all the hype about the new PreSonus StudioLive, I gave in and purchased one. In comparison to the Mackie Onyx 1640, I do think that it is a far superior mixer, however the learning curve is quite a bit steeper than the Onyx. I am still trying to figure it out as I have only had it for two weeks. Right now, I am trying to use it with Tracktion 2 for recording as I have become very comfortable with Tracktion 2. I am struggling trying to get the SL to interface correctly with Tracktion 2 but other than that everything is great on the SL.
 

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