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Marcu Miller and Sire's arrangement goes beyond your standard marketing that we're used to seeing, like a "Signature Bass". It's a full line collaboration around his desire to pay it forward by making sure there is an affordable line of basses available for any bass player that needs an affordable alternative to a good instrument.I was checkin out the Sire website a while ago, and I'm not sure I understand. It appears (from what I've seen) that EVERY Sire Bass Is a 'Marcus Miller bass'?
At first, I just assumed it was the "J-Bass Types" but every model I clicked on the site says "Marcus Miller'. What am I missing?
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$300 for a used affinity seems ... high.
The Affinity PJ currently sold new is only $370 in the US.Great way of stating the problem.Well...
You probably won't like my answer, but... you did ask. So... which of the 3 would I pick?
My answer is... none of them. I personally have no use for any of the 3, regardless of price, or the "nice-ness".
I have a Fender P-Bass that I bought from a friend, some 35 years ago now. It's a left handed '78, with the optional-at-the-time "A-spec" neck. Which is essentially a '78 Fender Jazz Bass neck, with dot fretboard inlays and a "Precision Bass" decal on the headstock. I loved it the first time I picked it up; and, I still do. So, even if the Affinity and/or the Classic Vibe basses were ever available as a lefty? I almost certainly would not like the neck(s). Yes, I suppose I could buy a lefty one, and replace the neck; but there's no spot in my 30- bass strong "Herd" for another P-Bass. Especially a cobbled together parts P-Bass. The one I have is plenty good enough... And, as for the Sire P5R? Even if they did make it as a lefty, I would give it a hard pass. I have absolutely no use for a 5-string bass; and, never have. They either have necks that are too wide for my thick, short stubby fingers, or the strings are too close together for my thick, short stubby fingers. And I've actually noodled around on some that had both problems.... So, thank you, but NO. I'll pass...
But, that's me. If, as you say, you are a 5-string player - and have been one for 25 years? I think the best bet is to keep saving for the Sire. Honestly? This "which 4 string P-Bass should I get" stuff sounds like you just want to buy something. And it really doesn't matter what; as long as it's something with bass strings. I get that way, too. Don't worry; it'll pass...![]()
Good analysis. This way you presumably get something unaltered that works right out of the box and has a return policy.High just like the sellerThe Affinity PJ currently sold new is only $370 in the US.
In my perspective I am looking for something light in weight.Yeah, I don't get the hate for the Sire headstock either. As for Squire vs Squier, phone autocorrect just won't let me win.
You know while there is a 5 string version, the P5R is a 4 string, right? And I'm just looking for a p bass that does the p bass thing well. Not to mention simplify for some things, thus going from 5 to 4 strings. Not getting rid of anything, either. The other basses I have serve different roles.
Good point. It's a 60s classic vibeI voted Classic Vibe, but I'm curious which decade it represents.
Fair point. I think the last time I was looking at GC a while ago, I was looking at some lower price point instruments and just didn't see anything. As these things go, I keep raising my price point and keep forgetting that I should go back to these things.I would consider a Squier Sonic series P bass over an Affinity.
I bought one, mainly to get the Graffiti yellow body, but out of the box, it was a decent P bass. It comes with a Jazz bass width neck which is totally serviceable and the hardware and electronics are decent.
I was planning to only use the body, but I ended up swapping the neck and pickguard and so far have left the rest stock.
Just looked at Guitar center's website. There are several Squier Affinity Pbasses for under $200.
There's also this MIK Squier that is likely a nice bass.
I have no connection with GC.
But they will ship to a store near you and have a 45 day return policy on used gear.
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Yeah, I did know that, actually. It's just that, at my age? My memory tends to be... sketchy... at 2:30 am; which is why I screw up a lot when I try to post stuff that late.Yeah, I don't get the hate for the Sire headstock either. As for Squire vs Squier, phone autocorrect just won't let me win.
You know while there is a 5 string version, the P5R is a 4 string, right? And I'm just looking for a p bass that does the p bass thing well. Not to mention simplify for some things, thus going from 5 to 4 strings. Not getting rid of anything, either. The other basses I have serve different roles.

No, white with tortoise pick guard.is it the sonic blue 60s cv with matching headstock? buy it.
Visually, I like the blocks on the 70s neck more than the 60s neck, but it seems consensus prefers the 60s CV.Good point. It's a 60s classic vibe
Assuming all of these are in playable condition, I'd buy option # 2. I'd probably have to mod # 1 anyway, and #3 I'd have a rough time looking at a P5 too, plus I'm $300 ahead in the game.So, I've been on the lookout for a p bass. I've never had one abd this would be a third bass for me. I've seen a few pop up on marketplace lately in my area and wanted some opinions. Which of these would you choose and why? Just for grins, we'll make it a poll.
1 - an older Affinity. Made in 2004 so alder body, rosewood fretboard. I don't think it's completely stock because the fender info says open gear tuners and the pictures are not open gears. $300 used.
2 - classic vibe. Not sure of age but I'm hoping to hear from the seller about the serial number so I can get more info. Fretboard looks darker so I'm guessing it's rosewood and probably an older one? Definitely NOT stock. Fender hi mass bridge and what appears to be quarter pounder pickup. $350 used.
3 - keep saving for a new Sire P5R. Love the look but wanted to keep the price down since I've been playing 5 strings for the last 25 years. Not 100% sure I'll like going back but don't really want to go to 5 on a p. Just feels wrong to me. Also, by continuing to save, I may find another used bass I like more than this. $600 + sales tax brand new.
Yeah, I prefer white dots on a dark fingerboard over anything with a maple fingerboard.Visually, I like the blocks on the 70s neck more than the 60s neck, but it seems consensus prefers the 60s CV.