which would you purchase?

[iplaybasstexas]

I have the option for purchase either an Ampeg rig or a Bergantino cabinet, for near the same price.

the Ampeg rig is an Ampeg b5r,rack, tuner, power conditioner, and two SVT410HLFs (USA made)

the Berg in a NV610.

The Berg is pristine shape...

the ampeg's aren't fully tolexed, but i don't mind much.


So would you buy the rig, thus having a back up head, back up rack and two extra cabs,

or buy just the Berg.


keep in mind that i usually play rock music...check the link below:
my current rig is an Ampeg SVT410HLF and a Mesa Titan V12.
my HLF also isn't in great condition.

which would you select?

 

[anderbass]

You've already got a beat up HLF and a better head... I'd go for the upgrade and buy the Berg.

 

[iplaybasstexas]

this may sound dumb, but


if the Ampeg is 48hz- 18khz
and the berg is 48hz-4.5 khz

that means the Berg will have deeper low end, right?

 

[Figjam]

I would go with the Berg.

 

[Anthbass]

this may sound dumb, but


if the Ampeg is 48hz- 18khz
and the berg is 48hz-4.5 khz

that means the Berg will have deeper low end, right?

The Bergantino has no tweeter, thus it's high frequency response is considerably lower. As far as having 'deeper low end', your ears will have to decide.

 

[sevenorchids]

this may sound dumb, but


if the Ampeg is 48hz- 18khz
and the berg is 48hz-4.5 khz

that means the Berg will have deeper low end, right?

48 hz is the low end...the other stuff is the high end.

That being said, I wouldn't trust specs that any company provides. They are notoriously "made up" based on what marketing wants out there.

Titan and Berg would be a great combination. Keep in mind that the Berg isn't ported though. More like a SVT 8x10 sound than the ported 410HLF, which is known as a deep lowend cabinet.

I've owned the Berg NV610. It's a great cabinet. I have the NV215.

 

[iplaybasstexas]

The Bergantino has no tweeter, thus it's high frequency response is considerably lower. As far as having 'deeper low end', your ears will have to decide.

well, i play hard rock/"screamo" stuff...so i need the low end pretty much. I also like the mid's for my church rig though, which makes me lean towards berg, since its probably more "versatile" from gig to church.

the beaten ampeg....not so much.

 

[iplaybasstexas]

48 hz is the low end...the other stuff is the high end.

That being said, I wouldn't trust specs that any company provides. They are notoriously "made up" based on what marketing wants out there.

Titan and Berg would be a great combination. Keep in mind that the Berg isn't ported though. More like a SVT 8x10 sound than the ported 410HLF, which is known as a deep lowend cabinet.

I've owned the Berg NV610. It's a great cabinet. I have the NV215.

If i got the berg, my rig would be this:

TITAN--NV610/410HLF/Peavey 215/
or if i got the ampeg rig:

TITAN/B5R---410HLF X 3/peavey 215


But if i sold one of the HLFs, and then sold a bass, i could possibly buy the NV610 also,
thus giving:

Titan/B5R---NV610/HLF X2/ Peavey 215

i like the last combonation most!

 

[sevenorchids]

Even better, go with:

Titan --> NV610 and NV215

Sell the Peavey and Ampeg...

Actually, it looks like you get less power out of the Titan at 2ohm than 4ohm (840W/2ohm vs. 1200W/4ohm). So, just grab the NV610 and call it a day.

 

[rodl2005]

+1 go with NV610-(I got one AND a NV215 ) SUPERB cabs. Id stay with the Mesa head(unless goin ALL tube & NV610 or sell some gear & get a NV215 also- MAN what a sound THAT is-a 610 & a NV215!!!! Not that I get to do that except VERY rarely!! BUT I'd seer clear of the B5R meself,

 

[JEDI BASS]

this may sound dumb, but


if the Ampeg is 48hz- 18khz
and the berg is 48hz-4.5 khz

that means the Berg will have deeper low end, right?

I've owned two 410HLFs, they go down to 28hz IIRC--- below low B, VERY DEEP, deeper than any other 10-equipped cabs on the market I believe! And they're not making US products, or quality (IMO) products anymore. But, since you already have one and the 410HLFs are beat up (otherwise--possible investment potential), I voted for the Berg.

 

[Bassflute]

Even better, go with:

Titan --> NV610 and NV215

Sell the Peavey and Ampeg...

Actually, it looks like you get less power out of the Titan at 2ohm than 4ohm (840W/2ohm vs. 1200W/4ohm). So, just grab the NV610 and call it a day.

or sell that stuff and go for the 4x12...

or sell EVERYTHING and get a 3x10 IP and a Summit 2BA-221 pre with a TLA 50...



But get the Berg - it will be a SERIOUS sound upgrade.

Cheers,
Cameron

 

[Rick Auricchio]

No choice for Cowboy Neal?

 

[iplaybasstexas]

not sure who cowboy neal is...

Anyway...its crunch time.

the poll is about even.
I'm very conflicted on which to get.

 

[bikeplate]

HI

Bergantino cabinets are just awesome. I personally would not hesitate. Use the head you have, it will kill

Rob

 

[iplaybasstexas]

HI

Bergantino cabinets are just awesome. I personally would not hesitate. Use the head you have, it will kill

Rob

how much do NV610's usually run on the used market?

 

[bikeplate]

HI

Not sure. 610's are a bit much for me to haul around so Ive never owned one. I prefer a modular setup. I have 2 210's and a 410. I use whats appropriate for the gig I'm headed to. My buddy had a 610 and a 215. Keep your eyes on the classified here. They come up.

Rob

 

[iplaybasstexas]

woo!

if all goes right, i'll be getting both!

rig will look like such:

mesa titan // b5r

nv610
(newer)410hlf
peavey 215


Wooo! I'm happy now!
I'm getting a Bergantino NV610 and a newer American HLF!

i'll keep you fellows updated.

oh, and even though i'm getting both, i can't buy out the carrots

 

[bassteban]

The ONLY time(besides this)I ever heard anything about the B-5R was once when a guy in GC(not an employee)told me they were crap. I don't know how much more reliable you can get than that. Go Berg or go home.

 

[iplaybasstexas]

The ONLY time(besides this)I ever heard anything about the B-5R was once when a guy in GC(not an employee)told me they were crap. I don't know how much more reliable you can get than that. Go Berg or go home.

yeah, i'm just gonna sell that....and maybe get a Markbass? who knows..its X-mas!