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Why do some progressive bands sound so dated?

So do the progressive rock fans even appreciate a player like Joe Osborn? I really loved his bass playing, but it seems like a lot of it is the kind of oldies that some here wouldn't even like.
I love anything that’s interesting and melodic,don’t care about the categorization.
Joe is on so many of the records i grew up loving before prog was even a thing,and There’s a lot of prog that isn’t particularly melodic that escapes my appreciation.
 
So do the progressive rock fans even appreciate a player like Joe Osborn? I really loved his bass playing, but it seems like a lot of it is the kind of oldies that some here wouldn't even like.
His playing on cuts like Bridge Over Troubled Water and America by Simon & Garfunkel was so very inventive!
 
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Weird thing about the genre is I really love some of it, and totally can't get into others. I love Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, but never ever could get into Moody Blues and really cannot stand Procol Harum (gees guy, learn how to pronounce the ONE Spanish word in your song).

Also, if synths are part of the definition of PR, then my other favorite is Alan Parsons Project. Eye in the Sky is one of my all-time favorite albums.
 
It's funny, some "prog" bands feel that they have to stay in a lane in order to be "prog", while ignoring the simple fact that "prog" is short for "progressive" which means:
1.
happening or developing gradually or in stages; proceeding step by step.
"a progressive decline in popularity"
synonyms: continuing, continuous, increasing, growing, developing, ongoing, accelerating, escalating; More

That being said, the music is, in fact NOT "progressive", but simply put, it's classic rock and not at all progressing the form.

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I love Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, but never ever could get into Moody Blues and really cannot stand Procol Harum

Yeah, it’s funny how prog bands rarely leave anyone feeling ambivalent: you either love ‘em or hate ‘em.

In fact because I feel so polarized about some of the most iconic prog bands — my personal party line is, I *love* Yes, King Crimson, and Gentle Giant, but I *detest* ELP, Rush, and Genesis — I sometimes wonder if I’m really a prog “fan” at all?
 
Some of you would probably laugh but the most I ever got into progressive rock was STYX when I was in middle school.
Sounds like the days when Journey, Styx, REO Speedwagon, Kansas, and Chicago where what was most likely coming out of my stereo, while songs by Pink Floyd, Rush, Yes, Genesis, Jethro Tull, ELP and a couple of other bands were more likely to be heard at a party where the guy spinning tunes was smoking a joint. Listening to the same music 40 years later, I find myself impressed, amazed, and more appreciative of what the "Prog" bands were doing.

At the same time, I'm still not certain what the label "progressive" really means. I don't think that there are many that would label Deep Purple as a "prog band", yet while listening to songs like "Burn" my ears hear a lot of progressive elements.
 
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So do the progressive rock fans even appreciate a player like Joe Osborn? I really loved his bass playing, but it seems like a lot of it is the kind of oldies that some here wouldn't even like.

I can't speak for everyone, but it's possible to appreciate complex music for what it is, and also appreciate more melodic and catchy, pop music for what it is, too. When people ask me what kind of music I like, I can't answer that question other than to say I like pretty much anything that's done well.
 
Sounds like the days when Journey, Styx, REO Speedwagon, Kansas, and Chicago where what was most likely coming out of my stereo, while songs by Pink Floyd, Rush, Yes, Genesis, Jethro Tull, ELP and a couple of other bands were more likely to be heard at a party where the guy spinning tunes was smoking a joint. Listening to the same music 40 years later, I find myself impressed, amazed, and more appreciative of what the "Prog" bands were doing.

At the same time, I'm still not certain what the label "progressive" really means. I don't think that there are many that would label Deep Purple as a "prog band", yet while listening to songs like "Burn" my ears hear a lot of progressive elements.

When I say "progressive" I'm just referring to the bands who are categorized that way, mainly from the 70's.
 
Sounds like the days when Journey, Styx, REO Speedwagon, Kansas, and Chicago where what was most likely coming out of my stereo, while songs by Pink Floyd, Rush, Yes, Genesis, Jethro Tull, ELP and a couple of other bands were more likely to be heard at a party where the guy spinning tunes was smoking a joint. Listening to the same music 40 years later, I find myself impressed, amazed, and more appreciative of what the "Prog" bands were doing.

At the same time, I'm still not certain what the label "progressive" really means. I don't think that there are many that would label Deep Purple as a "prog band", yet while listening to songs like "Burn" my ears hear a lot of progressive elements.

Well, at the time "Fusion", which I have always thought was a better label, was already copped by the jazzers.
Journey's first album had quite a bit of a Fusion/ Prog feel to it. That faded out over the following two albums as they developed into a more mainstream Pop band. But they continued to sneak a bit of Prog into their albums even up to Frontiers.
Styx had quite a bit of Prog-like tendencies most notable on their early Wooden Nickle albums. Even after they went fully mainstream, Paradise Theatre and Kilroy Was Here were both concept albums.
Kansas was definitely a Prog band at least up to Monolith, and even their more commercial stuff always had very layered and technical elements.

I do not recall REO Speedwagon or Chicago ever being referred to as Prog, though Chicago always had quite a bit of Jazz influence.
 
I can't speak for everyone, but it's possible to appreciate complex music for what it is, and also appreciate more melodic and catchy, pop music for what it is, too. When people ask me what kind of music I like, I can't answer that question other than to say I like pretty much anything that's done well.

There are two types of music. The music I like and music that sucks.
 
I've heard Roundabout so many times I can barely stand it, but I gotta admit I watched every second of this guy breaking it down, isolating parts and analyzing it:


That was super cool! I listen to my share of groove centric music, but an equal amount of harmonicly challenging stuff. How anyone can think up songs like this amazes me. Think about it. It’s 1971, “OK mates, we’re going to start with a backward piano chord and then transition into a sick bass riff with crazy guitar playing on top.” And throw in a double tracked minimoog part.
I’d give my left arm for that kind of vision and ability.
 
Revisiting....I recently I downloaded 15 Yes shows from 1970-78 via audio from youtube uploads, and the music is still beyond description. I cant even fathom how they wrote some of this stuff. The bass work always amazing even going back to the first Yes album. Live, if any one guy fcks up, the entire thing could fall apart, and they didnt. (ha the dead it didnt really matter) For me everything up to and including Going for the One, still puts chills down my spine. Truly a band beyond description. Is a shame the remaining 'real' members (Anderson, Howe, Wakeman, White) cant work out their politics, and a shame White is not well, his playing really held it together, and there was much room for error that was rare.