Seriously, why not? I'm sure they could tune the box to suit two 3012LF's and a 6" mid. It'd surely sound much better than the current 212 they offer (NOT THAT IT IN ANY WAY SOUNDS INHERENTLY BAD).
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Why doesn't Avatar do a 1212/6?
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I say....adding a 6 to their current 212 Deltalite variant would be a great improvement. Even a simple closedback to the current box.
Good call.
And BTW, when did they start doing Marshall clones and who's building them? I never knew that until the other day, but I like it.
Good call.
And BTW, when did they start doing Marshall clones and who's building them? I never knew that until the other day, but I like it.
It would drastically increase their price point. More complicated build, with a complicated crossover. It would become their most expensive, albeit best cab. So the cabs they make a ton of money on wouldn't sell as much.
Well, they managed to hit under $600 for a nearful. And they could probably carry the x-over between boxes.
The cross over is a weak point in that design, and it wouldn't be usable in both cabs.
You can buy everything but the wood, finish, and grille for less that $725. Build it yourself.
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The reason fEARful cabs cost what they do is that there the design is about performance not economy. To get to that price point some corners will be cut.
Yup.
Yep. I built two 12/6s for around $350 each.
And with fEARfuls (whether building them yourself or having them built for you) you have a wide choice of finish, hardware, etc.
And with fEARfuls (whether building them yourself or having them built for you) you have a wide choice of finish, hardware, etc.
I understand all of the above, I was simply hypothesizing. I (wrongly) assumed that this discussion would be keeping in mind the implied compromises vs a fearful that Avatar presents. But, if I'm building any speakers for myself, I'd be most inclined to more or less copy Johnk_10 with dual Faital 15PR400's.
To keep costs in the same ballpark of their other cabs Avatar would have to make a lot of concessions. Their take on the 1212/6 might not live up to expectations.
Avatar is at the opposite end of the market from fEARfuls and the like, and don't claim to be otherwise. They could take the alphalite from the TB153, or us an la6cbmr, with the same HPF (and likely LPF for the 4ohm 212), modify the LPF for the 8ohm version and have a winner IMO. It doesn't need to be "perfect", just sound good, which it will. The closedbacks in my Pa cabs would distort with appreciable power put to them, but that's with a typical 500hz off-the-shelf crossover job. I put the same closedbacks in my bass rig, pass them up around 800-1khz and the distortion isn't a problem anymore. They are a little rough around the edges compared to premium stuff, but Avatar isn't competing with premium stuff. They'll still sound way mo' betta/more "professional" than your typical 410's, etc.
The box is already there, the filters are already there, all they'd need is a different LPF for the 8ohm woofer compliment version, that's it. It's just more switching around/using different combinations of what you already have for the most part. 1 of those mids runs hot enough to sound good with 2 woofers. I run that way all the time, and frankly, wouldn't want some 100db 6, I'd just be turning knobs trying to tame it down anyway.
Now........about that JTM45 clone.....hmm....
The box is already there, the filters are already there, all they'd need is a different LPF for the 8ohm woofer compliment version, that's it. It's just more switching around/using different combinations of what you already have for the most part. 1 of those mids runs hot enough to sound good with 2 woofers. I run that way all the time, and frankly, wouldn't want some 100db 6, I'd just be turning knobs trying to tame it down anyway.
Now........about that JTM45 clone.....hmm....
That is a great cab he built, and great driver choice. I don't blame you. I wasn't offering you any of our Kool-aid. It is too good to share. 
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