Androids, iPhones, and web sites are not the same as an operating system I choose to run my computer. Maybe people are getting used to the intrusions but that doesn't make it right and it doesn't mean I have to accept it. I'll stick with something other than Windows for now.
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Windows 10
- Thread starter ZenG
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I've been running it for the last couple months. I like it because you can still make it look like Windows 7, which is what I did when I had 8.1. I like 10 better than 8.1 because the tile pop-ups are more intuitive. I haven't really delved into the features much, so that's pretty much all I've got.
I started using Chrome when Explorer kept crashing on me. I haven't even tried Edge.Hah, yeah. Edge is an improvement over Internet Explorer, but it still has quite a way to go to catch up to the major browsers. Some updates coming to it soon which will help, but only time will tell if it'll be a real contender, or just a method to get a different browser
I have already upgraded. If you have doubts, they give you the option to roll back to 7 if you don't like it.
I'm okay with it. They are basically moving toward a more tablet/phone sort of interface.
I'm okay with it. They are basically moving toward a more tablet/phone sort of interface.
I had the free upgrade and was running Windoze 7 I believe and the upgrade is noticeably better. My PC runs better, less fan noise, faster uploads and downloads and it was free to do so. So far I am really pleased with Windows 10.
I have only upgraded one computer (a Lenovo laptop) to Win10. It runs well, but the touchpad isn't fully compatible with Win10 so the left button-click is erratic in response.
To be honest, Lenovo's website you can check before upgrading notes this incompatibility. But it's not a fatal flaw, because the right-click is not affected, and I can always tap the touchpad instead of using the left button.
I get the idea they're pursuing, but it pisses me off that they've spent a couple of decades training me in using a specific interface and navigation logic, then they were idiotic enough to abandon that logic in Win8, and they have only done a little better in 10. Finding things like control panel can take 4x as long in 10, until you get fed up and add a shortcut to the start bar or some place in the little floaty fruity squares that pop up (I have to look for a way to turn those off.)
I think there will be many, many people who stick with 7 as long as possible because the navigation still works.
To be honest, Lenovo's website you can check before upgrading notes this incompatibility. But it's not a fatal flaw, because the right-click is not affected, and I can always tap the touchpad instead of using the left button.
I get the idea they're pursuing, but it pisses me off that they've spent a couple of decades training me in using a specific interface and navigation logic, then they were idiotic enough to abandon that logic in Win8, and they have only done a little better in 10. Finding things like control panel can take 4x as long in 10, until you get fed up and add a shortcut to the start bar or some place in the little floaty fruity squares that pop up (I have to look for a way to turn those off.)
I think there will be many, many people who stick with 7 as long as possible because the navigation still works.
Interesting thought, Pilgrim.
From my perspective, MS introduced the Win8/Win10 workflow in Win7. When you press the Windows key and start typing, it searches for you and will open things. For your example, in Win7, Win8 and Win10, if you press the windows key and type "control", the first thing listed is control panel. I haven't truly opened my start menu since I used Win 7... maybe even Vista, but that was too long ago to remember.
People were just so married to the (much slower) method of hunting/pecking through the start menu's ever-growing list, that it was overlooked and a not well advertised feature.
The other place MS dropped the ball is advertising all of the shortcut keys. Once you have those down (they are the same in Vista through 10, with some additions along the way), again, workflow efficiency increases quite a lot. But, you have to go on the internet and look them up before you know they're there.
People will stick with 7 because people are scared of change, even free change that may make things easier for them. I certainly hope people do not stick with an antiquated OS if for no other reason than security.
Funny enough though, we have a ton of people here at work asking us when will we roll out Win10. A big selling point are the virtual desktops and much improved UI for touchbased or touch-enabled devices. Thankfully, we just wrapped up the base image, so we can roll it out pretty much at any time now.
From my perspective, MS introduced the Win8/Win10 workflow in Win7. When you press the Windows key and start typing, it searches for you and will open things. For your example, in Win7, Win8 and Win10, if you press the windows key and type "control", the first thing listed is control panel. I haven't truly opened my start menu since I used Win 7... maybe even Vista, but that was too long ago to remember.
People were just so married to the (much slower) method of hunting/pecking through the start menu's ever-growing list, that it was overlooked and a not well advertised feature.
The other place MS dropped the ball is advertising all of the shortcut keys. Once you have those down (they are the same in Vista through 10, with some additions along the way), again, workflow efficiency increases quite a lot. But, you have to go on the internet and look them up before you know they're there.
People will stick with 7 because people are scared of change, even free change that may make things easier for them. I certainly hope people do not stick with an antiquated OS if for no other reason than security.
Funny enough though, we have a ton of people here at work asking us when will we roll out Win10. A big selling point are the virtual desktops and much improved UI for touchbased or touch-enabled devices. Thankfully, we just wrapped up the base image, so we can roll it out pretty much at any time now.
Update. I switched both of my machines (Windows 7 personal and Windows 8.1 work) over to 10. I love it. Edge is great. Everything is more intuitive to me. The search function (called Cortana) works great! You can either use voice function or type in what you are searching for. And when you search it will bring up both computer files and Google type searches. For instance, if I type "printer" it will bring up both printer controls in my computer and internet shopping for printers.
It is as attractive as 8 was (although I found 8 useless) but functional as 7.
It is as attractive as 8 was (although I found 8 useless) but functional as 7.
Forget the control panel. You don't really need it anymore. Just click on the Cortana search circle and start typing what you are looking for. Sometimes going through the control panel can take a dozen clicks to get where you want to go...... and thats after finding the block style icon in that mode or reading through lists of settings in the other mode (one is called "classic" I think). But with that search, if you start typing (for instance) "display settings" it will list all the places in your control panel that has display settings. One click from the list, all of which contain display settings, and you are there. To me, going through the control panel is much more "wonky".
Pretty slick by comparison if you ask me.
I went into "Privacy" settings on my W10 and there's a ton of stuff that can be turned on or off in there...
Still haven't finished yet....
Thanks for the lists.....
It's my pleasure. When you're done in "privacy" settings, run this little utility to shut off a good portion of the other stuff Microsoft has hidden from you:
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I went into "Privacy" settings on my W10 and there's a ton of stuff that can be turned on or off in there...
Still haven't finished yet....
Thanks for the lists.....
I told my friends - you should pay attention while installing Win10. It asks you a LOT of questions about turning various functions on and off. People should avoid taking the defaults and take a moment to think over each option before giving a response.
My Windows 10 comes with "Bing" search.
It was fast when I first got it.........but I guess McAfee doesn't like it because McAfee program asked me to switch to Google.
"Bing" is real slow on initial search now.....
Whereas If I switch over ( I can toggle between the two) ...Google is pretty damn fast.
Funny that I have to switch over to Google to be able to download YouTube vids onto TalkBass. TB won't take them from Bing.
I also notice that when searching gifs, Bing will often not denote that gifs are gifs...whereas Google will.
Bing is in the "Microsoft Edge" window.
Google seems to do a better job...
It was fast when I first got it.........but I guess McAfee doesn't like it because McAfee program asked me to switch to Google.
"Bing" is real slow on initial search now.....
Whereas If I switch over ( I can toggle between the two) ...Google is pretty damn fast.
Funny that I have to switch over to Google to be able to download YouTube vids onto TalkBass. TB won't take them from Bing.
I also notice that when searching gifs, Bing will often not denote that gifs are gifs...whereas Google will.
Bing is in the "Microsoft Edge" window.
Google seems to do a better job...
Naha I had my friend's wife ask me if I liked windows 10. I told her I never even tried 8.
On my Windows 10 it has Windows Live Mail.
I have three e-mail addresses. I use two of them.
The third one is an old email address from when I had a different cable provider.
I don't use that one .....but......every time I use email, WLM sends me an error message that mail can't be delivered to it.
Anybody know how to go in and delete the third one.....remove it altogether etc etc etc??
I have three e-mail addresses. I use two of them.
The third one is an old email address from when I had a different cable provider.
I don't use that one .....but......every time I use email, WLM sends me an error message that mail can't be delivered to it.
Anybody know how to go in and delete the third one.....remove it altogether etc etc etc??
Only nine days left for the free Windows 10 upgrade. Now, Microsoft is offering to do it for you.....
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