Wireless headphones with no latency?

[ReeV0]

Hi all,

I've got a decent bluetooth headphone which i use with my PC to watch films and play video games. When I play bass, I have to attach an AUX wire and plug it into my HX Stomp.

I have tried a few different 3.5mm bluetooth adapters in the past, but there was always too much latency (e.g. I would pop a note on the bass, and hear it in my headphones a few ms later).

Just wondering, are there any super low latency (and cheap!) bluetooth adapters?

 

[Aloe]

bluetooth and no latency == not possible. thread closed

if you want wireless headphones for your bass, waza air bass would be my bet

 

[ReeV0]

bluetooth and no latency == not possible. thread closed

if you want wireless headphones for your bass, waza air bass would be my bet

Looks pretty cool but around £380 more than I wanted to spend

 

[arbiterusa]

Literal non-latency requires analog radio, which is dicey for both price and potential interference reasons. But it's the only way.

Fairly low latency digital systems are out there but still not as cheap as what you're talking about.

Bluetooth will never be anything but extremely high latency. My car setup is almost a half second's worth of latency.

 

[seamonkey]

Search for "Wireless RF Headphones"
Or try a pair of Sennheiser Kleer headphones which I think are discontinued.

 

[Tosh]

There is a low-latency bluetooth protocol, but "low" doesn't equate to "none".

In my studio, there are no wireless headphones at all. Cords may be a hassle, but it's the only way to get high-fidelity with zero latency.

 

[DJ Bebop]

Hi all,

I've got a decent bluetooth headphone which i use with my PC to watch films and play video games. When I play bass, I have to attach an AUX wire and plug it into my HX Stomp.

I have tried a few different 3.5mm bluetooth adapters in the past, but there was always too much latency (e.g. I would pop a note on the bass, and hear it in my headphones a few ms later).

Just wondering, are there any super low latency (and cheap!) bluetooth adapters?

 

[Relsom]

Rf is your only satisfactory wireless option.

 

[scowboy]

Yamaha just introduced some wireless headphones just for this purpose.

Yamaha YH-WL500 Wireless Headphones

Not cheap though.

 

[Egg250]

Not sure what you have, but you would need to get something like the XVive U4. It is a bluetooth wireless IEM. It runs $250 -$300 and you would need a set of ear buds. The cheaper ear buds run about $50 and they can get quite expensive. The XVive has a latency of less than 5ms of latency, which is not noticeable. There are other IEM systems out there.

Unless you want to dive into the world of IEMs, stick to wired headphones for practice.

 

[IPA]

The Mustang Micro is the most elegant to cost effective solution to this. I love mine.

 

[seamonkey]

Yamaha just introduced some wireless headphones just for this purpose.

Yamaha YH-WL500 Wireless Headphones

Not cheap though.

Those are Bluetooth,

Yamaha make's some claims on low-latency, IDK, they're still on pre-order.

I do Not see that Yamaha uses aptX Lossless either, so they may not be up to what some people may want.

We'll see...

 

[Chrisk-K]

I’ve accepted my fate of drowning in the sea of cables…..

 

[gtirard]

Anyone knows aiaiai audio?

"This is not a Bluetooth headphone.
With our W+ Link technology we secure a stable ultra low latency and uncompressed wireless connection."

TMA-2 Studio Wireless+ | AIAIAI

350 €

 

[Aloe]

Anyone knows aiaiai audio?

they claim 16ms latency, that's on a high side for playing an instrument.
16ms and 2.3ms are totally different leagues.

 

[Aloe]

Those are Bluetooth,

I believe, they're both BT and propietary wireless (when you connect the dock to 1/8" jack, it acts as a transmitter). they claim 'under 4ms' in propietary mode and that's not bad, but still Waza should be faster.

Waza Air also has a BT mode with for the cases you want to listen music from your phone, but don't care for latency.

 

[Blue Swede]

Not sure what you have, but you would need to get something like the XVive U4. It is a bluetooth wireless IEM. It runs $250 -$300 and you would need a set of ear buds. The cheaper ear buds run about $50 and they can get quite expensive. The XVive has a latency of less than 5ms of latency, which is not noticeable. There are other IEM systems out there.

Unless you want to dive into the world of IEMs, stick to wired headphones for practice.

While 5ms might not be noticable to everyone, if you happen to have any kind of digital processing units it might add up to become an issue…ymmv

In general if you want wireless to be ”latency free”, analogue is the way to go imho.

 

[tadawson]

Literal non-latency requires analog radio, which is dicey for both price and potential interference reasons. But it's the only way.

Fairly low latency digital systems are out there but still not as cheap as what you're talking about.

Bluetooth will never be anything but extremely high latency. My car setup is almost a half second's worth of latency.

Uh, no . . . . Sennheiser EW-D is a digital system without detectable latency. It's Bluetooth that stinks, not digital.
(And analog radio "dicey"? Bwahahahahah! Only the cheap offshore crap! A lot of top wireless systems are still analog, and apparently nobody told them they have issues . . . )

 

[gtirard]

they claim 16ms latency, that's on a high side for playing an instrument.
16ms and 2.3ms are totally different leagues.

With the new model, they now claim "Cable-like performance with under 10ms of latency"

 

[el murdoque]

With the new model, they now claim "Cable-like performance with under 10ms of latency"

I tried the cable version of that thing and it was quite good for bass. A bit muffled in the top end, but neutral(maybe a slight boost down low) in the mids, fast and direct, very open feeling for a closed back.