That's true to a certain extent. It mostly depends on what your job is. If you are driving a big rig down the highway or performing surgery I would prefer you weren't stoned the night before but that's just me.
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Would you/do you submit to drug tests at work?
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That's true to a certain extent. It mostly depends on what your job is. If you are driving a big rig down the highway or performing surgery I would prefer you weren't stoned the night before but that's just me.
You've made some good posts in this thread. I agree with them all.was it the book 1984 that had the phrase "Honest people have nothing to hide"?
i think so, but feel free to correct me...anyway
the phrase was jokingly corrupted to "Honest people have nowhere to hide"...that about sums it up.
you either want to live in a police state or you want freedom and liberty...i opt for the latter.
And I would not want you as an employee either (if that makes you feel any better). Often, having random drug tests is a cost-saving measure. Some insurance companies will give you a discount for doing it. If you aren't willing to pee in a cup to help me save a few bucks (even though you claim you have nothing to hide) then you are simply immature and need to find somewhere else to work. If you are such an amazing employee, I'm sure you'll be fine elsewhere.
I'm a big "protect your rights" guy. Don't get me wrong (or get me started down a road that will end in a closed forum). But when you agree to work for someone else, for money, you give up just a few. I can tell you what to wear. I can tell you that you can't listen to the radio. And, yes, I can require a drug test to make sure my employees aren't stoned on the job. (By the way, my business is pretty casual, so I don't do any of those things. But I could.) Anyone who thinks it's their "right" to protect their pee is just wrong. And anyone who stands his ground on this issue, even though he has nothing to hide, is too prideful and not very bright (and better suited to work for someone else).
Not always... We've been trying to hire another me for 8 months w/o luck. Different industries, different worlds, different ways of thinking.
Explain what you do since even pharmacists are having trouble finding jobs at the moment.
So it's ok to nose into someone elses life, if it saves you money?
I'd also say that someone who takes such a condescending view over others is better suited employing someone else, probably someone who isn't as bright and is happy with a boss who holds such a mentality
I'd test clean, I'd still say no (with a few exceptions), much in the same way that I'd say no to handing over the password to access my emails or social networking accounts, even though there is 'nothing to hide'. If it isn't affecting my job then and there, it has nothing to do with the company.
Web programmer.
This forum has done more to hurt my productivity than any drug or alcohol ever could.
So it's ok to nose into someone elses life, if it saves you money?
I'd also say that someone who takes such a condescending views over others is better suited employing someone else, probably someone who isn't as bright and is happy with a boss who holds such a mentality
I'd test clean, I'd still say no (with a few exceptions), much in the same way that I'd say no to handing over the password to access my emails or social networking accounts, even though there is 'nothing to hide'. If it isn't affecting my job then and there, it has nothing to do with the company.
+100
There's nothing wrong with being thrifty, but I find it slightly deplorable that one would be willing to invade someone else's privacy just to save themselves a few bucks.
So it's ok to nose into someone elses life, if it saves you money?
I'd also say that someone who takes such a condescending views over others is better suited employing someone else, probably someone who isn't as bright and is happy with a boss who holds such a mentality
Nope. I didn't say that. I only said that it is OK for me to show you the door if you DON'T want to pee in a cup to save me some money.
And my employees are paid higher than average for what they do. They are respected, as am I. I say yes sir, no sir, please and thank you to the lowest paid person on the staff. I give out random bonuses. Everyone here is happy. But they know where I stand as well (which is rare these days). Just because I REQUIRE a few things of people who I PAY, that does not make me a jerk. That makes me the boss. If they don't like it, they can start their own company, mortgage their own house to start up, work 60 hours a week for years and let THEIR employees do whatever they want. Heck, they can smoke up at lunch together, at THEIR business. They are still free people. I'm not chaining anyone to a desk. They can leave at any time.
I may have seen what happens when someone has a coke and Xanax addiction as a healthcare professional. It cost the company more than a few bucks.
Having a high tier degree doesn't mean you have less competition, well, not always.
The stock market crash a few years back basically wiped out many retirement accounts. More than a few pharmacy schools got greedy and started churning out more grads than jobs, too.
About 10 years ago, I could call the shots. Now I'm just hoping I don't get laid off when they cut staff at the hospital. Sadly, the next round of layoffs are happening as the market is once again flooded with new grads. Oyve.
I'll do it, but:
1. The employer must also take a drug test.(must be high if they want to hire me)
2. Donuts must be supplied while I wait
3. I want a ride home
4. I plan to quit next Thursday, so I need Weds. off so I can be good and relaxed for quitting
5. Carrots (or sweet potatoes, whichever)
The real answer is no. Too old to put up with that nonsense.
1. The employer must also take a drug test.(must be high if they want to hire me)
2. Donuts must be supplied while I wait
3. I want a ride home
4. I plan to quit next Thursday, so I need Weds. off so I can be good and relaxed for quitting
5. Carrots (or sweet potatoes, whichever)
The real answer is no. Too old to put up with that nonsense.
Aye, been that way here too (well, in the bio-sciences). I graduated just as the crash happened, decided the best way forward was to broaden horizons down the post grad route.
It's kinda cool when you know the majority of the people in the country with similar skillsets
Do you accept background checks??? No matter how you feel about drug law, the fact of the matter is that drug use is breaking federal law. If you're willingly breaking federal law, it says something about your character. You're participating in criminal activity. Add to that the safety issues of impaired employees (yes, I know....you'd NEVER use at work. Not everyone feels that way), and employers are trying to cover their assets.
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