Yeah this is where they really lose me. I'm all for someone being successful in business, but at some point as a paying customer you start to feel like a chump funding their boutique bass collections.
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Would you spend $2000 to learn to play jazz online?
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Yeah this is where they really lose me. I'm all for someone being successful in business, but at some point as a paying customer you start to feel like a chump funding their boutique bass collections.
Have you noticed his guests are far more intersting than he is?
Bass players are inspired by something sometimes a little difficult to define, that makes another player different and interesting to you.
I like players who have an individual way to select or play a note, not fluid players. This copy cat phrasing of sliding 4th finget up 2 frets during a run is boring and repititious and very "so can I" type playing. He fell for it.
Note articulation turns a bass player into a bass guitarist. Think Entwistle, Bruce, Fraser. Individual players who cannot be replaced. That, is interesting.
Bass players are inspired by something sometimes a little difficult to define, that makes another player different and interesting to you.
I like players who have an individual way to select or play a note, not fluid players. This copy cat phrasing of sliding 4th finget up 2 frets during a run is boring and repititious and very "so can I" type playing. He fell for it.
Note articulation turns a bass player into a bass guitarist. Think Entwistle, Bruce, Fraser. Individual players who cannot be replaced. That, is interesting.
I wouldn't expect good result from any online learning program, especially one approaching an experiential subject like jazz. So no.
But the comments in this thread about how else you guys would use $2000 are laughable. Team, you can hardly get a brake job on a Toyota for $2K these days. LOL 10 private lessons with Ron Carter.
But the comments in this thread about how else you guys would use $2000 are laughable. Team, you can hardly get a brake job on a Toyota for $2K these days. LOL 10 private lessons with Ron Carter.
Never really liked Scott or his channel, seems like a natural evolution of his pomposity
One of the best articles about studying Jazz ever
https://www.talkbass.com/wiki/jazz-really-learning-a-tune/
"Do you wanna play more Jazz? Sure, we all do! Now you can study at home in your spare time. Some people would pay $5200 for this ground breaking course but act now and it can be yours for the low low price of $2000."
My thoughts exactly.
This class clearly focuses on beginners. But as a beginner, I don't need a predetermined course with big name teachers. Give me the dude from the house band at my local dive bar, but let me sit in a room right next to him. I am a big fan of the possibilities of our digital age, but when it comes to learning, the screen creates a barrier that is very hard to overcome.
I live next to a regional sports park that has a lacrosse, soccer, field hockey or whatever event every weekend. Tons of parents there hoping their Johnny or Susie is noticed by the college scouts, and they usually have a whiteboard next to the sign-in booth with the names and colleges of the scouts in attendance. They're paying big bucks for the exposure to the scouts. Funny how I never actually saw a scout. Lacrosse especially has big bucks pumped into it. Then during the week there is always private lessons for an 8 year old with someone that looks like they "almost" made it pro. My daughter did competitive cheerleading and that was pushing $10 k / year.
Back in the '90's I could get almost two years worth of education in my local community college, now 2K might pay for a couple of courses. The nearest college, offering what you suggest is two hours drive from me.
If/when I'd decide to study Jazz, it would have to be through intense self study of theory and transcribing. Eventually, I'd seek out players that would be willing to mentor me. A community college with a music department would be a great place for networking!
I've given up on SBL. When it started it was a pretty good deal. And when they added the academy memberships they originally included everything. But gradually more and more additional fee offerings and "special" courses started cropping up.
It's since a become a classic example of hype wedded to an upselling sales strategy. Which is why I canceled my membership and stopped paying attention to anything Scott Devine is offering.
If you have $2K to spend on jazz lessons, take them in person eith a qualified teacher.
It's since a become a classic example of hype wedded to an upselling sales strategy. Which is why I canceled my membership and stopped paying attention to anything Scott Devine is offering.
If you have $2K to spend on jazz lessons, take them in person eith a qualified teacher.
I know right? It would be hysterical if I hadn't just gotten a brake job…
Yeah, even the 2k you spend on lessons from a half decent CC music program would bury SBL's stuff. Do what's best for you, but I humbly suggest moving the "seek out other players" item left on your timeline. Jazz is truly a folk art and time in the saddle playing and interacting with other artists is the fastest and most effective way to "get" it.
No, don't buy it. The only way to learn jazz is to play it with other musicians in the same room.
But wait, the class size is limited (67 spots) and they will never offer this again… it is a one time opportunity and it will expire… I saw the counter, they're serious… once that counter times out, there are no more chances to get it… gone, never again. Don't miss out… limited time offer… this just dropped into my inbox, again.
Limited spots for an online pre-recorded class. How dumb does he think people are?
