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For sale 2013 Sadowsky NYC Fretless Modern 5

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This was a special bass for me ... for about 10 gigs or so.

Bought right around the time that my 'life path' and the great band I was in, diverged.
This bass was the perfect 'special flavor' for about 5 of the songs we did each set that fretless bass enhanced, and it had the perfect 'beefier back by the bridge Jaco Tone' I was looking for.

When I ducked out of that band, gigging became a more infrequent affair, and what I did play, had me returning more to a 'P-Bass with a B' tone. I went in that direction, and ended up with another one of Roger's creations, that's been one of my main players. NYC PJ5.

But, that 'thick all over' tone I favored, did not mesh with what this tremendous fretless brings. No amount of EQ would get them to match, and the 'P with a B' tone was getting me what gigs I had.

So this went in the case .

SPECS

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Unchambered Ash Body (a bit over 9lbs)
- Olympic White Finish
- purchased direct, by me, and received on 1/30/2013
- #6281
- 20 'frets'
- Unlined Ebony Fingerboard
- 1.875" Nut
- 34" Scale

CONDITION

If it wasn't for one single ding I can't get to photograph, on the very bottom, and the discoloration that happened from a particular case, and some mild left-hand wear, I'd put this at MINT. Almost NOS.

I have very little practice on this bass really. I got it, gigged it for a dozen gigs or so, and then in the case she went.

The fretboard is largely-untouched by the round wound strings. Nothing I can get to show up on camera.


TONE

The neck pickup soloed, with some bass boost, can certainly get into some 'big booty bass' territory, but the overall 'voice' of this bass is leaner and ... wait for it ... overused word that actually applies here ... punchier tone.

Rich low-mids and it nailed exactly what I wanted/did not want in a fretless at that time:

- P Body
- 20 Frets, ala' an older Fender
- Ash/Ebony, having heard some fretless basses with that combo
- Achieved 'that Jaco sound' but thicker all over each note

It felt and sat in the mix and in combination of those things will make a new owner very happy in a jazz setting, or some original, 'hot lady with a guitar accompanied by fretless guy' gigs.

Good work if you can get it!



TRADES?

No thanks. I am spoiled and well-satiated (finally) in my GAS quest.
If I do get those PM's, I may respond in a hilarious fashion


PRICE

$4700 CONTL US ONLY

  • NEW NYC BUILD (GUESTIMATE, AND I SHOT LOW) IN 2023 WITH COMPARABLE SPECS: $7025

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Note on video:

I start off with everything flat, VTC rolled off.
Panning to different pickup positions, and I'm sure you can figure out which.
To provide no 'trick photography', I pulled this out of the case, tuned it up, and did not warm up and have not been playing fretless a lot recently, as you can hear.

Hence the 'WANK SPANKERTON' disclaimer.

Next step is I dial in a smidge of bass/treble, so you can hear a slightly altered version of the inherent sound. You can do a lot more, and through a bigger rig.

Recording into my iPhone mic, playing low volume into my Phil Jones practice amp. Set flat, in the air, nothing special.

IME, Roger's basses sound good.through any amp/can with string you connect them to.

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ElMon

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Besides the 'my head is in a different place tonally' reason to let this go:

1) I don't like anything to be in my collection that isn't getting gigged. To hoard a world class instrument like this is bad juju, IMO.
2) I have a 'Musician 5 Style' NYC on order, in a fretless, that I can't wait to get.


As to the neck 'schmutz:

I am confident someone with some skill could get that off, without really damaging the neck finish. I gave it a 'once over' after noticing the smudge, when the bass hadn't been used in a long while and probably got zapped with some heat during a day or two when we were out of A/C in Oklahoma Heat.

Showing her 'warts and all'.
 

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Where my head was at on this build:

I've always loved the bridge-only, burpy 'Jaco Tone' fretless sound. Not just a Rocco Prestia-imitation, bouncing all over the place approach, but using that sound to play with chorus/octave/distortion to get passable synth tones.

But ... being a 'P Man' through and through (big and thick all over) ... I never quite bonded with that tone overall. Lacking some 'oomph' when playing supportive lines.

My idea with this build, was that I could take the things I did like about the 'fretless J Fender' experience ... Fender spacing, 20 frets, and a P shape instead of a J-shape, because of how it hangs on my frame ... and then add in what I think is the best finger style, low-mid-heavy tone I've ever heard in a bass: Roger's M5-24/Modern/Call it what you want model.

And he nailed it.

There is always a low-mid emphasis to this bass, even at extreme EQ settings, and with the bridge pickup only, it's still beefy, in a way that (IMO/IME) a regular 'J' is often not.

I don't hesitate to say that it's kind of a faux pas on my part that my playing life slowed down, and my tonal preferences changed, so that such a wonderful instrument never got used. It still can be 'broken in' by someone gigging regularly.

Love this wood combo in general, for each note being pitch-focused and glaringly accurate about your ongoing struggle to play in tune.
 

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Changed the thread-title here.

- this bass only has 20 'frets', as far as that goes, so technically it would be a M5-20, which isn't really anything other than possibly some colorful street-slang of the future, to be applied to buxom, thicker gals seen on the street. 'Dag, did you see that? That girl's an M5-20!'

- I've been fretting over it for a while.

- It's been fretfully hard to make a decision of what exactly to call this bass.

- Now that I've made the change, all that 'fret' I was experiencing is now gone.

- You might say I'm fretless in that regard.
 

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Just an update that this thing is still awesome, and would still blend in well to a snowy environment.

Say if your name was Snarno Hienlurk (Finnish I believe) who agreed to take a gig in a snowy tundra, somewhere outdoors near Helsinki, but you think there might be the possibility of armed folks of some sort showing up to said gig, ready to do a bit of the old ultra-violence.

There you are thinking of escaping with your life and your 'boo-teak' bass geetar.

I'd hate to think that when you made your escape on your skis that the bass on your back did not blend in with the white snow around you. Seems a good way to draw fire in your direction, though I'm sure certain unchambered bass designs could absorb a few 7.62 NATO rounds

SAFETY NOTE: This bass produces a precise mid-range flavor that really highlights every pitch flaw we all have in our fretless playing. I'd recommend a vigorous practice schedule so as not to draw some of those gunmen's rounds in your direction, when they hear how you didn't quite stick the landing, sliding into that big low G on that ballad, against the perfectly-tuned keyboard player.
 

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I wear a Jaco costume every single time I play this instrument, which should add value to this instrument because:

1) The 'all the way up to your chest waistband' white pants guaranteed there was zero belt rash on this instrument

2) Flowery, open Caribbean shirt could have provided an opening for errant chest hair, but for what little chest hair I do have, I shave it off and apply the same type of marine epoxy to my own chest that Jaco reportedly used on his 'Bass of Doom'.

SIDENOTE: The fumes from the epoxy, if in a closed room, will allow a sort of character-actor's approach to 'late-period/off-the-rails' Jaco.

3) Caribbean Head-Wrap: not only does it keep my own hair all bundled up, so as not to have any 'ElMon Dander' fall inside of the pickup cavities, but the long straps on such a setup allowed me to drape one of the pieces across my fretboard, as a sort of random muting device, and I maintain that it masked my left-hand movement, so none of those up and coming bass players could steal my licks.


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(RIP Sir. Please do sneak into my apartment to haunt me, and I'll leave this fretless out as a kind of 'tray of cookies for Santa')
 

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I once attended a nudist gathering, of which I was (thankfully) allowed to be fully clothed for the gig.
Not seeing many clean surfaces, I decided to turn this wonderful bass over, and then after applying a bit of plastic wrap to the back of the instrument (I'm a pro after all) I placed the gratis sushi roll directly on the instrument.

So many beautiful wood grains in the maple neck, to be observed, as the soy sauce and wasabi interact with the yellow tuna and the rice and I strive to not observe any of the flabby, dangly bits around me.

Just because that didn't happen doesn't mean it could not happen. The 'P-Shape' to the body is a wonderful serving surface, versus the off-set 'J-Shape'. One could spill their sake that way.
 

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SELLER'S GUARANTEE. JANUARY 10TH, 2024

I posit that a soon-to-be-sold bass, left in it's case, begins to atrophy, and that the wood begins to contract, because it is the vibrations of finger against string, sending sweet bass tones through the body, that is the mana to this instruments soul, and nourishment for its body.

Keeping that in mind, and until this bass is sold by me, I vow to any prospective buyer that I will, on a daily basis, take said instrument out of it's case, and that I will play ONLY the type of indulgent, 'look-at-me' bass runs, that span the entire fretboard, so that every 'fiber' of this instruments living/breathing 'body', receives these life-giving, vibratory 'feedings'.

Where possible, I will play four note chords in odd patterns that never sound as good as, say, a regular guitar, and I might get up to some slapping, but rest-assured, I have a protocol here.

Your friend,

ElMon
 

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REMINDER: You don't have to 'play like Jaco' with a bass like this, although you should.

I have 'that sound' in my head, truth be told, and in this instruments case, you get 'that sound' but with more of a low-mid character, that's there on all pickup settings. It's a more supportive, 'functional' take on 'that sound', although I've heard from people who actually saw Jaco live, through house speakers or just off of his rig, that his live sound was much thicker and fuller than what we get to hear on classic recordings. If I'm wrong about any of that, please pay for this bass, and a ticket to OKC to pick it up. We'll hash it out over some longnecks and some BBQ.
 

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IMO the 'P Body', with it's symmetrical shape, feels the best on longer gigs.
It just clicks into place. I've examined this idea, having owned this bass long enough, as a '250-lb fatboy who wears his bass up high', and as (currently) a cowboy-slim, long-haired, bearded 40-something who wears his bass low.

Feels great.
Oh yeah.
 

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Think of how you're going to look on stage in your 'Robert Palmer Tribute Band' attire.
Smoke show.
Nailing it.
Getting numbers.
Taking the significant other humanoid of your preference to the proverbial 'homefront'.
 

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Clip of this bass playing Jaco's 'Continuum':

"Boo-boo SPLANG(!), dooobie bweee dooooo ..."

"Boo-boo SPLANG(!), doobie bweee deee-yooo ..."

"Boo-boo SPLANG(!), doobie bweee doo DEE-BE DOOOOO ..."

"BAW-BO-BWEEEEEEE-DOOOOO"

Putting some of my phrasing issues aside, you can really hear that 'Jaco sound' in there, but with that unique-to-this-bass low-mid something.
 

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Endorsing Artist: Aguilar Sadowsky Hipshot David Gage Czech-Ease Mono Kala UBass
Yeah the highly regarded 6200 series was a magical era!
 

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I just know, in this world and this economy, that there are a lot of y'all out there playing all-instrumental, fusion-like jazz, at low volume ... kind of a 'wall-paper' jazz band: something nice that complements the room ... and you just know in the depths of your Pellegrino-pumping heart that you need this bass.

You crave it.

'How can I get into the high-end world of a Sadowsky, but in the obscure way befitting a person like me, who interprets a narrow period of Jazz styles, of the 1930's in New Orleans banjo-led bands, but through the lens of wanting to sound like a thicker version of Jaco'?

Well I tell ya ... here it is folks.

For you 'I need lines, breh' bro's and brosophines (and all in between!): you could use a butter knife to carve lines into the fretboard, and that too will have those local cats all like:

"Yeah baby, I heard Ronny Raw Dog got on his bass with a butter knife man. Just like Jaco did."
"Far out man. Dig. In the pocket."

Your legend will grow, but you'll never grow out of, this bass. You'll never be able to re-sell it if you go all 'Jaco in the Paul Butterknife Blues Band', but I'll respect the hell out of you for doing it. I would never laugh at you, if say for instance you went full white pants, trying to imitate our deceased fretless hero, but had to get a 46W/28L, custom-shop type of deal.

Fat Jaco wannabe: even they need a 'fat-sounding' bass.
It's getting weird out here, and as Hunter said, that's when the 'weird turn pro'.
 

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Man that is a snazzy bass right there. Bad timing for me:(

Gotta tell ya though, I've enjoyed your Gonzo delivery on your ads over the years.

Somebody has to carry on 'the wacky'

'Metronomes are for d-bags' threads await.

Just kidding.

The metronomes I've known are better than drummers in that they don't steal your girlfriend.
 

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After these last basses, get sold, and I am absolutely serious, I doubt I will ever come to this site ever again. That's how much I despise this new visual layout. So confusing and unenticing compared to what I had just a week ago.
 
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