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Jethro Tull

I don't think I've ever heard anybody here ever mention digging any of Jethro Tull's bass players. They've had a few really great ones IMO.

Glenn Cornick was the first and I really love all his work on the first few albums. It would have been really interesting to see what might have become of him if Ian hadn't kicked him out of the band (for partying too much!). After leaving Tull he played in another band, Wild Turkey, for a few years then packed it in. Some of his great highlights are Bouree and Inside which have some great melodic parts.

Jeffery Hammond was not in the same league I suppose, but he'll be the first to agree with that. He was basically handed a bass by Ian and asked to learn to play very quickly, so Aqualung was actually weeks into his bass playing carreer. Actually considering that, he did pretty well!

The next great one was John Glascock who was there from '76 to '79 when he died from heart trouble. He was a really great player though - especially some of his work on the Heavy Horses album.

Dave Pegg. Actually, Dave's a great bass player, but I never much cared for his tone (rather bright and thin). Lots of people liked Peggy though.

The new guy, Jon Noyce has done some fine work on the J-Tull.com album and it was nice to see BP Magazine write a short article on him a few months back. Finally somebody in that magazine who I've actually heard!

So, out of the bunch, I think I've come to appreciate Glen Cornick the most, with John Glascock a close second. Anybody else have an opinion (or care at all!)?
 
My favorite Tull albums are "Stand Up" and "Benefit",
so I also love Glen Cornick's work.
He also played in a power trio with Bob Welch (ex-
Fleetwood Mac) in the mid '70s called Paris. They
only put out an album or two, which I've never heard,
but I'll bet it's cool.
 
Yeah, I like STAND UP a lot, too.
I suppose AQUALUNG will always be my personal favorite though(just conjures up imagines of youth & cranking that record up with my bedroom window wide open so the neighbors could enjoy my "hipness") :D
For the same reason, SCHOOL'S OUT has a special place in my heart!
I'm pretty ignorant about post-PASSION PLAY Tull, though.

Tull also had some pretty decent drummers!
 
Well you must have noticed that Ian Anderson actually played bass on all the songs but 3 on Stormwatch. That was when John Glascock got really sick and couldn't continue. Ian actually sounds petty decent. In any case, it's obvious he must have supplied many of the ideas for bass parts over the years that others played (especially Jeffery Hammond!).

I guess I'm the only wacko on this board that has the entire Tull catalogue. I still think they are producing some really fine music these days and they are certainly one of the best sounding live acts I've heard.
 
You are my man!
My favourite band is Tull!
I think, all of the bassists did a great job with Tull, because bass playing was always a very hard work with this band. I would choose first John Glascock. I love the albums he played on, especially Heavy Horses and Bursting Out.
He died too young because of his illness, but his achievement can't be forgotten.
Jeffery Hammond-Hammond is another question. He played on very good Tull albums (Just to mention Thick As A Brick or Living In The Past), but his bass-playing is not really for me.
I like Glenn too on the early albums, especially Stand Up, but I would rank Dave Pegg second. He is a good player, and was the bassist of Tull for 15 years. And knowing Tull, it's a really long period :). The albums from that time (especially Crest Of A Knave and Catfish) contain very good numbers with very good bass-playing.
I only have one problem with Tull. I'm 16 years old, and live in Hungary. I've never been to a Tull-cocnert, but it's high time. Budapest is one of their favourite places (according to Ian), you know there's even a number about our capital, so I hope they're going to come here next summer :cool.

Just one sentence: I'm interested in every topic about Tull!
 
I'm one of the limited Tull fans, but I think I picked the right period - Benefit and Aqualung years. I saw them in concert between those two releases. I really liked Glenn Cornick's playing...even what I heard of Wild Turkey, his next band. I actually have a recording of John Glascock in the band that he was in prior to Jethro Tull, which was Carmen, a weird, electric flamenco band. I actually liked a couple of cuts from them.
 
You hear about a lot of folks who don't listen to much after Aqualung which is really a shame, because there have been another 30 years of albums! I have to admit myself that I'm not a huge fan of Thick as A Brick and Passion Play which followed Aqualung (although parts of those 2 albums are fantastic). I guess maybe they lost some of the bigger numbers of fans after Passion Play but I really believe some of Anderson's best work came from '74 onward. Certainly any of the late '70's Tull albums are great with some fine playing by Glascock.

Even some of the '80's Tull is really good - perhaps you just have to try and look past the synthesizers a bit, but the basic songwriting is still there. '90's Tull is even more neglected by the general public, but again, there really are some great songs.

In this age of so much mediocre rock music, it's a shame that people forget to listen to new music by some of the few remaining rock legends. Yes is another band that fits this category - their newer albums are just as great as some of their classic stuff but for some reason most people have stopped listening.
 
Oh my, you must be the other 5 people left that like J Tull.
John Glasscock is the best Tull bassist. His tone is sweet, and his parts are so full of melodic invention. Second is Cornick, sweet tone as well, creative bass parts on Stand Up esp. Jeffery HH, whether coached by Ian or not, is still an above average bass player and is enjoyable to hear- listen to his part on Skating away. Peggy is cool is hell, not my favorite bass tone, but he is solid. I saw him with Fairport Convention and he was impressive in that band. Nice to chat with as well. His playing on the A album kicks ass. He was more agressive in 80-82 in those years with Tull. His older Fairport work is good as well. Steve Bailey did an awesome job on Root to Branches (95). Too bad he can't full time it with Tull. Amazing fretless tone. Jon Noyce, I don't like. He's just a watered down studio musician, mostly copying the older guys work. On J-Tull.com, his playing is mediocre at best. But to be fair, that album bites. Worst Tull CD ever. However Secret Language of Birds, IA's newest solo album is very good.

Tull rules, Britney sucks,out
RS
 
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Originally posted by RS
Jon Noyce, I don't like. He's just a watered down studio musician, mostly copying the older guys work. On J-Tull.com, his playing is mediocre at best. But to be fair, that album bites. Worst Tull CD ever.

I disagree with all of those statements. I can't see anything whatsoever wrong with Jonathon Noyce's playing. He caertainly isn't playing anything of less merit than Jeffery Hammond, but since he was around for many of the more popular albums, that is often overlooked. I've seen Jon a few times live and his playing is of a very high calibre.

The "watered down studio musician" argument never seems to make any sense to me. Please explain what you mean. So often I get the impression that because people are hired often to play sessions, they are often considered by other musicans to be "non-musical". That's ridiculous. These players do a lot of session work BECAUSE they generally are excellent players, readers and are extremely musical. It often sounds more like jealousy to me, from people that aren't getting that kind of work!

As far as the j-tull.com album is concerned - I guess you can feel free not to like it yourself, but I still feel it's miles ahead of most of the current "hip" bands that are topping the charts these days. Worst Tull album ever? I've never thought about it in those terms - I didn't think there were any bad ones. Most Tull fans probably thought "A" was a horrible album when it came out, but if you're really honest, it's full of great material. Maybe with time you'll hear some better sides of j-tull.com.
 
There is nothing "wrong" with Jon's playing. Certainly he would not be with Tull if he could not read music, improvise well, etc. But compared to the other bassists, he is not as creative or interesting to listen to. And I would like it better if he played his own bass parts on the older songs. For example, the bass part from Heavy Horses is awesome, and cannot really be improved but on the Slipstream video Dave Pegg plays his own way and it rocks.
Steve Bailey is just a studio musician, but his presence and style is all over Roots, and helps make the album much better. Jon's playing to me is too unobtrusive or transparent. I don't see what he adds to the songs really. The parts he plays on J-tull.com are solid, but they're the same kinds of lines I would make up if I was trying to make simple, unobtrusive bass parts. Traditionally Tull bass has been more melodic and agressive, which prefer.
No one more than me wants to like J-Tull.com, but after many repeated listens I can't get into it. The song structures are weak. The changes are very predictable. There doen't seem to be anything new or inventive going on. And a lot of the lyrics are cheesy. Yes, it is probably better and more musicial than the average pop album, but I expect Tull to be great, and pop music to suck. J-tull.com is just not a good CD at all compared to the older albums.

This is just my humble opinion. Respectfully,
RS
 
About Jonathan Noyce and Dot Com.
First and foremost I don't think that Dot Com is a bad album full, of awful tracks. Perhaps (I'm sure :)) it's not the best Tull material in the last few years, but you can find great songs on it: Spiral, Hunt By Numbers, El Nino, Wicked Windows and so on. I don't have a favourite Tull album, but I like some better than this new (Bursting Out, Catfish Rising, Crest Of A Knave, Aqualung, etc.), but every album can't become a classic, like Aqualung or Thick As A Brick.
Jonathan is not bad, but perhaps on this album you can only see one side of his bass-playing. Don't decide after only one album. It can happen, that the next Tull album will be ass-kicking with great bass, but it can also be played with another bassist (I's not unusual at Jethro). So I advise you to wait.
 
This might be a good time to bring this back,
since I was about to start a thread on Glenn Cornick.

I always thought his playing on Benefit
RULED!

I saw him do the Fall 1970 - second US Tour and the guy was absolutely unbelievable.

I won't comment on John Glascock :p, other than I might have changed my name.

Glenn is still around, I think he's retired in Kaulifloweria. One of my early inspirations.

Thor
 
I'm a huge TULL fan and have seen them quite a few times over the last several years. Saw them for the first time at the Fox Theater for the Catfish Rising album (a great "modern" Tull album), and have seen them three times in the last 2 years. I just received my ticked for Ian's "rubbing elbows" appearance in Chicago in a few months...that should be an interesting one!

My choices...Songs from the Woods, Benefit, and Aqualung.
 
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Oh I forgot to add after seein Tull at the Cape Cod Melody tent in July 01 and seeing Johnathan Noyce playing a Fender Pbass he had the most incredible tone. I'm a Jbass guy and have been for a long time and he was the inspiration to get myself a nice Pbass.
I dissagree with the statement that he's just a watered down Studio cat, He put on a great show with tull and plays all the parts of all the great Tull bassplayers to a T, Glascock beeing my Fav.
There new stuff is awesome if your a fan.
Check out there new DVD.
 
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