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Markbass LMKII vs. Thunderfunk 550B Shootout

Well I know alot of you would be interested in this so here it goes. I picked up a Markbass LMKII a few weeks ago and Also just picked up a Thunderfunk TFB-550B and have finally got to spend some time with both of them. I tried out each one with a Berg HT210 4ohm (not the S series cab) and a Berg NV610. I used a Fender P bass (newer one with S-1 switch), A fretless 6, and one of mty King uprights ( with gut strings and Rev solo pick up) for testing. Here are some specs for both amps.


Markbass Little Mark II

500w into 4ohm , 300w into 8ohm
6 1/2 pounds
10" x 10 3/4" x 2 3/4"
4 band EQ
-Bass +/- 16dB @ 40 Hz
-Low Mid +/- 16 dB @360 Hz
-High Mid +/- 16dB @800 Hz
-Treble +/- 16dB @5kHz

VLE (Vintage Loudspeaker Emulator)
VLP (Variable Pre-shape Filter) 380Hz (cut)

Effects Loop (Parallel , but can be modified for series)
Tuner out (No mute)
Balanced XLR out (Post-EQ, but can be modified to Pre-EQ)
Ground lift switch
Speakon combo jack and 1/4" speaker outs
XLR balanced input on front



Thunderfunk TFB-550B

500w @ 4ohm
15lbs
Bass and treble controls
4 Band parametric EQ
Enhance and Timber controls
Tube/S.S. Switch
Tuner out with mute
Pre and Post XLR outs with level controls
2 Speakon and 2 1/4" speaker outs
Limiter with defeat switch
effects loop pre and post


Here are some pics


The amps
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Amps with cabs
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Back view
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Some of the test basses
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Well first off with everything set flat these amps sound pretty similar, With the TF being a little warmer sounding( in Tube mode and SS) and just a little fuller sounding. Also both are very close in volume. It's hard to really tell which is louder, and they are loud. Once you start playing around with the EQ's is where the difference starts. With leaving everything flat and just using the VLE and VPF on the Markbass and the Timber and Enhance on the TF I found the VPF and enhance to be similar (they're both basically a mid cut with slight bass and treble boosts) just centered slighty different. The MB cutting alot of mids at its extreme and bringing out alot of high end while the TF seems to be a little more musical (personally I'm not a huge fan of cutting the mids I find that you dissapear in the mix and have no force behind the note). The Timber knob and the VLE are quit different though not drastically. The timber seems to just voice the amp differently while still retaining the sound, the VLE seems to just roll off the high end going all the way into super deep dub territory(basically like a passive tone control on a bass).
Both amps have alot of usable tones in them and the EQ's on both are very usable, with the TF being more flexable because of the 4 Band parametric. You can leave both of these amps flat and just use the "magic knobs" to get your sound unless you are a crazy tweek freak ( in which case I would recomend the TF). So to sum it up for now


Markbass LMKII
Pros
- Really light weight (6 1/2 lbs!)
- Not sterile sounding
- Can do Hi-fi to B-15 tones
- Loud
-Affordable ($599)

Cons
-No D.I. level control
- Eq limited (but useful)
-Can't do 2 ohms
-Doesn't come with rack ears


Thunderfunk TFB550B

Pros
-Loud
-Very flexible Eq
-Lots of D.I. and connectivity options
-Lightweight (though more than twice the weight of LMKII)
-Tube / SS switch (subtle but noticable seems to tighten up the lows when in SS

Cons
- Not sure if it can do 2 ohms



Both amps are very well constructed and seem very durable and have a quality feel to them. The MB being easier to carry (you could fit it in a gigbag or case compartment). I'de say the TF has a little bit better tone while the MB is slightly less coloured then the TF. If your looking for a small lightweight head thats loud you really can't go wrong with either of them. If your on a budget or want something really small and can do without the added features and more flexible eq I'de suggest the MB. If you need alot of Eq options or flexibility and want a do it all head I'de go with the TF. I'll post more findings as I get more time with each head.
 
Great job Demon. I just ordered the Little Mark II from GC. Im very excited about getting it. I was considering a TF but the light weight and the price won it for the MB. at $599 I have enough cash left over to buy a new cab (which im shopping for now) the MB is half the price but very very close to the TF in sound capability and volume. For the budget minded bassist the MB is a hands down winner.
 
One of the things I dig about the thunderfunk is the headroom available in the EQ section. You can gank the volume knob, then go gonzo with EQ boosts and still not run out of headroom. How's the markbass in that situation perform? Does it seem to have as much steam at high volume with multiple EQ boosts dimed?

For the record: I would probably get fired if I did what I am describing on most jobs. For the most part my T-funk sounds best flat, or just dialed into a room a little. I've even started ignoring the timbre knob here recently.

PS: Sweet King.
 
Excellent review, Demon666. I was considering both amps and never did get to try the LMII. They are still not available last time I walked into one of the local GC's. I picked up the Thunderfunk 550-B and have been very happy with my choice.
 
Hey guys,
I just bought a LMK 2 head and love it but playing through a low end cab. Can any of you guys suggest the best cab for me now??? I was thinking of the mark bass cabs but not sure. Also If I did go with MB cab, should i get a 8 ohmn or 4 ohmn cab ? Is there a lot of difference in sound or just volume ?
Thanks
 
Great review! Thanks for posting. I have a question about the power sections...I know that you mentioned that they are both really loud, but do you hear any difference in quality from the LMII's switching power section vs. the TF550's conventional power section? Does the LMII sound more "thin" or are they equally robust?

Thanks!
 
faz000 said:
Hey guys,
I just bought a LMK 2 head and love it but playing through a low end cab. Can any of you guys suggest the best cab for me now??? I was thinking of the mark bass cabs but not sure.

I am not a fan of the MB cabs, and I've tried most of them. I use my LMII through an assortment of Berg cabs and really love the result. They seem to be a good match.
 
vision said:
Great review! Thanks for posting. I have a question about the power sections...I know that you mentioned that they are both really loud, but do you hear any difference in quality from the LMII's switching power section vs. the TF550's conventional power section? Does the LMII sound more "thin" or are they equally robust?

Thanks!


The TF sounds a little more fuller but I wouldn't really say that the MB is thin sounding. I tested both playing upright slap and both kept up well and didn't distort or clip.